0x008c84421da5527f462886cec43d2717b686a7e4 (Q215)
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Love the team, their work and love are strong but we do need more results, so I agree with 4156 that I wont vote to extend again without more next time. How do we get juice and distribution from Nounishs works and the works they support both? How do we get out of the echo chamber to the other side?
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Want to see this in MoMA gift shop, that is winning here for me.
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Nouns Wet Wipes will become a permanent item in the market after this initial investment of USD 31,450 + 2 ETH (up from USD 19,050 prop 265). Voting on this being the case, will hold you guys to this standard.
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The DAO should help and endorse Nouners who build Nounish things, conditional on passing a vote, naturally. This helps a Nounish builder, demonstrates the value of their adjacent Nounish work and costs nothing tangible and almost nothing overall. We can equivocate and endorse nothing for fake decentralization theorycraft reasons, but if the DAO doesnt have a view on things and stand behind work by Nouners, Nounders, and Noun Family, were not doing our job.
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Would prefer not to see the 2 things stapled together, I know others complained about that on much smaller dollar Proposals recently. But at the end of the day, I and We do Stand with Crypto and Gitcoin is a fit for this.
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Games are good, cost staggered and success based, the early release Alpha has to merit more funding for us to vote spending more funds.
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A lot of mountains built out of molehills on this one. Straight forward and if people disagree, we can change the ENS record back. Were not writing this in blood, were a DAO and each possess the ability to vote.
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Nouns Wet Wipes will become a permanent item in the market after this initial investment of USD 19,050. I am voting Yes trusting 2 Nouners that this will be the case. Prove me right.
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Danit hustled a huge discount deal here on top of all the work she has put into her collection. Highlight our wins.
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Good feedback on it, good focus, good execution, lets see what a year of Nouns Fairs at EF and ETH Global events accomplishes.
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I have been talking to the team for a couple months; this is an important experiment for Nouns. My goal is to find ways for it to pay for restaurants to rebrand as Nounish. My bigger picture goal for it is to extend how we even think about the Nouns brand and how it spreads. How to make this into a repeatable Open Franchise kit, with the Nouns cc0 meme, open to all, such that any independent restauranter can plug into it and use aspects of it as they see fit (or not, open means use what works or nothing at all), and each one that plugs in enhances the entire network and its reach and relevance, a decentralized cc0 branded franchise. There are other elements to this stack that can be added by smart builders if they see an opportunity from loyalty/marketing/retention/rewards program/Web3 Point of Sale UX are all natural fits and some will be made in this Proposal but this model and kit will be open and evolve and incorporate what works and drop what doesnt over time. Done well this Open Franchise Model mutually reinforces Nouns and whichever restaurants plug into it. It could empower independent retail food service and create many proliferation opportunities that shoot off in a bunch of directions from customers to existing restaurants to people who are engaged by disruptive never before tried models. This experiment has the potential to blaze this trail. It will be on the team, who bring a track record running similar restaurants and businesses and who own Nouns and are committed to Nouns and are going out on a limb, to make this happen and create a model Nouns franchise. This Proposal and the Nouns seed relationship and halo is what give it the chance to grow. As to protections for the DAO, the cost side is what it costs to take this risk, we went back and forth on it. Nothing seems out of whack or inflated, they are making disruptive changes to an existing business and its physical plant to effect this change. There are milestones in place from within the multisig controlled by Nouners so theres also controls if it runs into an insurmountable challenge and has to stop. If we spend the ETH and the big dream doesnt materialize, we learn from it and have at least a singular Nounish restaurant that will persist. Youre welcome Melbourne. Prospectively, I wouldnt pay for restaurants to rebrand as Nounish --> the goal is to find ways for it to pay for restaurants to rebrand as Nounish.
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as seen on HeyAnoun: this is an an innovative crypto relevant tech and they are asking from the DAO an amount that shows they value our partnership, win win from that POV
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High quality art and high quality narrative art can scale meme-wise better than almost anything. If it can wrangle bigtime distribution, more so. If the quality isnt there, we can adjust prospectively. I am excited to bet on the Atrium team to deliver on this Prop, given what they delivered on 195 which was better than I expected, and if they do, then were more likely to fund the next Prop to continue.
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Whatever has been learned about how this is useful to Lil Nouns should be expanded on here.
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Make it great and work with Prop Lots so youre not reinventing wheels!
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Voted Yes last time and its been clarified, focused, and improved. My comment last time: Digitaloil is demonstrably dedicated, creative and aligned with Nouns long term and wants to try and build a useful Nounish primitive. Lets see how he impresses.
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Digitaloil is demonstrably dedicated, creative and aligned with Nouns long term and wants to try and build a useful Nounish primitive. Lets see how he impresses.
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Rectifying the mistake of an open delegation, Nouns in escrow for others or in the treasury should be politically fallow. Not in favor of non-state change Proposal as a rule.
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This Proposal feels rushed but its small dollar so the bar is lower. pNouns execution on Proposal 228 will determine how I vote on their next proposal. Good luck!
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This would allow us to fund up to 4 more great Proposals in the next twelve months. The risk of stETH is largely born by our treasury irrespective of our actual mix of ETH in stETH. Also, given that we need all the funding we can get, Id be open to rETH if it allays concerns around stETH, solutions to switch the mix are doable.
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Its exactly the kind of thing I want to fund and joined Nouns for AND it also should increase auction prices for 7 days, maybe worth 30-40 ETH from that in offsets. Perfect fit for the types of explorations of art, scaling of reach, and bridging of worlds with memes that Nouns exists for. It also creates a pathway into the fine art world, great all around.
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Will increase participation (voters can reliably pick one day to vote each week and not miss anything), desirable for Noun holders
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Nick and team iterated after their original Proposal 188 didnt pass, really clarified what they will do, and defined success and this now looks like a model of a well put together Proposal. After the changes, I said to Nick I plan to vote Yes unless someone makes a stellar argument against it. Nothing stellar ascended, so Yes I will vote. I look forward to seeing how you execute on it, good luck in the proliferatings.
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Thanks AI team for working with feedback, heartening and pro-social! I also appreciate all the work the AI Pod is doing on something called Gray Goo which sounds like a real opportunity for high growth and unstoppable proliferation and not at all something to worry about.
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Voting Yes here but in the future would want to see clear evidence that these efforts worked before I vote Yes for any more funding. Otherwise would likely be a future No. If theres a sustaining DAO that gets created as part of the energy here, great. Look to the the other localization subDAOs and efforts, learn from them, replicate what has worked where possible and good luck!
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Id encourage anyone considering this to look at 87Bones commentary in Jungle Discord. He has expertise in this industry and had some useful feedback and concerns Im voting Yes after taking it all in. My rationale: -This is a differentiated experimental model for branded Nounish goods. If it proves successful, its replicable. (Nouns Whisky minted at 500 barrels per year, entirely different products, etc) -102 ETH is 2-3 days of auctions today at a local nadir, < 1% of our annual runrate. The cost isnt particularly high. -This will return ETH no matter what, so the ETH cost is less than 102 stated. -Andre is real and its a thoughtful plan even given concerns that can be raised. Will be on them to deliver and execute in Year 3, not just Year 0. -I will absolutely buy this product and probably know a bunch of people who would, so theres PMF. -The NFT angle with the branded product is a good one, has life and adds legs. Owning a barrel over time is an experiential good, and something you can do with a group of friends. -Plays with commitments and ventures over longer time frames than most DAOs do or would. We are oriented to the long term uniquely. We expect to be around in 2026 and in 2036 and in 2069.
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I would lean towards 0xHindsights feedback and Bs around funding something wherein the value is hard to demonstrate after time and money has been spent on similar activities. And that theres more scalable value on the design of marketing/activations kit/formula that can be run by local teams without a dependency on one person or team. But I am voting Yes because Aubtoshi has been singular and I would like to see it continue. And the use of de facto milestones via the multisig is good to see and they stated clearly they will return any ETH more than the USDC they need. This works out to two weeks of auctions to fund Nouns On the Ground on the ground in a year where positive energy and in-person activations and marketing from other NFT projects will be less. More valuable now than in a raging bull for sure. Ball will be in their court to demonstrate this was ETH well spent and that we should spend ETH again in the future.
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Long time in the making after completing two prior Proposals as milestones since 2021, Danit is fantastic.
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Ask would be that Noun only awarded after successful completion of everything.
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Thank you, your work has helped so many and continues to do so.
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Nouns stands on the shoulders of the public good builders PG is supporting. <3
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The dedication to making this Nounish, the persistence through so many iterations, and the quality of the Proposer.
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Competitive industry, no edge, no track record in it, hardware is hard.
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Running clubs are a wonderful idea, good for people and organic adoption but they are also something that dont need money to support, they are opt in local groups and they live and die with participation and earned organic interest, not money. Money doesnt spend here.
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Very cool device and work, I just struggle with spending $230 all-in per unit to sell them for $50 per unit. If they are proliferation and for open source building, why sell them at all at that price, if they will be so cool as to be in demand, why not sell them for a price in the ballpark of their cost or above? This is neither here nor there in terms of what it is trying to accomplish and I struggle to see how it will accomplish being an efficient open source foundation for building (its interesting but very very niche) or be good business, as outlined.
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Theres not enough yet to commit to spending $800k/yr just to sponsor the 2 teams on top of other esports spend. The strategy and the demonstration of the strategy such that it is different than vanilla sponsorship relationships like what FTX or Avalanche have (that end when the sponsors stop paying) or such that Nouns.gg is a sustainable organization that participates in the growth and performance of its teams in a differentiated way that is workable for a DAO. If theres co-sponsorship opportunities or low hanging fruit, I want to see those realized before committing $800k/yr. Its been almost 9 months and the challenge is to manifest a strategy that clearly supports this spend. Its a real challenge and the DAO has to consider that there may not be a way to do this that returns to the DAO -- this does not seem to as of yet for example. The people in the Nouns esports pod are running it well and are highly functional. They are people I respect and trust uniformly. The issue I have is strategy and spend.
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Wheelz seems great but after back and forth with the proposer, this needs to be tightened up.
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Doesnt seem like it has demand, not sure its focused and clear, and the maintenance costs implied ongoing are high.
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Too rushed, categories dont make sense, push it back a week and do it more thoughtfully to maximize the impact.
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No. Bad process and destructive approach, not helpful.
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The original proposal was off (it happens and I have sympathy) and paying to pre-buy a run if needed should have been contemplated then. Mistakes happen, I have compassion for that. But if we knew we had to buy 30k comics for $150k then, its possible the DAO would have voted differently given this would have increased the all-in cost by 50%. As is, the evidence that there is demand for 30k comics isnt easily observable. Why 5k and not 2k per issue? After the original proposal was off, need more clarity and confidence to double down and buy our own comic. Nounders voted No to a 10k toy run for Nounish Friends with unique composable figures by Klim and the rationale was that these would sit in a warehouse and that was cheaper than the comics proposal all-in. How is there 3x demand for this at a higher cost to the DAO? At $5/comic, that feels like we are paying retail prices for a wholesale relationship. The explanation provided doesnt square for me. We are bearing the full risk with no upside. There are live sites right now to buy these comics $3.5-4 at retail. Its a discrepancy that stands out. If this is needed to be effective at Comicon(s) or to issue well, it should have been brought to the DAO before the last minute end of their February deadline. Being rushed is suboptimal. I was a Yes vote until reconsidering now based on leadership that unpersuaded me based on its value destructive approach and made me dig in more. Were all in this together continues to be my operating principle. People who believe in this should go our right now and pre-order it like I have, its cheaper per an issue and more organic. The work is great. https://impulsecreations.com/products/nouns-nountown-1-of-6-cvr-a-schlitz?_pos=1&_sid=22db16c66&_ss=r
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Federation is solid and will add absolute value and love Wiz and his work, but consistent with feedback I gave before the Proposal was onchain, cost is too high for this to work for the DAO. Given it went onchain as is despite feedback beforehand, would only vote Yes if cost was 50% lower.
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Nouns Sounds was unanimous when it was a small experiment with a clear set of deliverables. It went ok but it hasnt left our bubble yet and the community around it is pre-traction. As a platform, its very early and doesnt exist yet. It doesnt warrant big spending (yet), its still very much at the experiment level. Its on this team to prove out much more before its worth funding more. It doesnt make sense for the DAO to take experiments and 5x or 10x the funding unless theres strong evidence that it was a clear win. If this was continue to explore Noun Sounds and 50 ETH + 20 ETh for a CC0 music Prop House rounds, thered be something to debate, but after this ask and the strategy, Id lean No there. There is serious issues here with strategy and not understanding that the partnerships with these famous musicians are not only very expensive marketing for a platform that isnt ready for it but also a poor fit for how to build a real organic CC0 focused music community of any kind. You need people, small people, passionate people who vibe organically and dont need to be paid to vibe. Find those people, engage them with Noun Sounds, build Noun Sounds and its community with them. Money doesnt spend for that. When Proposers are getting paid by the DAO in other places, its helpful and important to lay that out upfront. The DAO deserves to know, the relationship is already so assymetrical, I expect our partners to be clear and WANT the DAO to be informed. Id also want to see Proposals be transparent when they have relationships with entities they are funding in the Proposal itself. It would help to know that Woody has a relationship with Save the Music -- it means that execution there is more likely to go more smoothly. Its also important because the DAO should know when theres the potential for related party transactions. Its small dollars here so it doesnt matter as much right now but STM was also was mentioned in that this team expects funding for future STM proposals, so understanding that relationship is important. It also highlights the lack of cohesion and focus here -- STM future proposals for even more money but also focusing on expensive celebrity marketing but also working on a pre-traction platform that will live and die by passionate CC0 creators that are not either of the first 2 groups is an odd admixture.
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1. If a Proposal misleads in their text, I wont vote for it. I expect better. 2. The model here should be: let Nouns DAO subsidize you experimenting and making us your test bed to launch what you are doing and we both win, if you make something that ends up having fit for us, or we lose a little if you dont. BuilderDAO giving you 25 ETH as they have, us voting on whether to give you 50 ETH or not, and you figuring out how to bridge the rest is a model that this DAO can support.
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More yield is great but the increased risk and complexity with a treasury this size is juice that is not worth the squeeze. Would also tweak the structure of the costs and the catch-up ETH basket.
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Only 500ish Nouns vs 20x as many for their other projects and I am not really sure theres PMF at a small size for this.
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Uncertain fit for the cost, need its fit demonstrated before this type of commitment
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Start smaller I think is what the votes are saying
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Gnars is awesome, should be funded if needed and within limits, but the 694.20 ETH is past the limit and is not judicious for Nouns DAO based on what was presented. Over time, would have no problem funding more than that, in tranches, as needed, and based on following demonstrated successes with more successes. Would fund 69.420 ETH.
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I require the Nounders veto be removed before voting any ETH to Nounders. This was one of Wags major priorities in our DMs, he was laser focused on decentraliztion and concerned about this as a threat vector (along with many related issues, Wag was always gonna Wag). The Nounders veto is more problematic and centralizing now than it ever was before. If you feel the same, feel free to delegate your Nouns to me, as I will vote all proposals that involve the treasury paying Nounders down until the veto is removed (the exception being ETH to fund removing the veto), especially ones involving major amounts of ETH. Lets decentralize the governance as it should have been long ago.
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1000 ETH is too high, especially upfront in one tranche and when Zora has its own treasury. Would reconsider if tranched into milestones/deliverables and lower aggregate ETH amounts. Tool is wonderful.
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Need more clarity in Proposal on details to know what will actually be stood up and what the process for deciding the details will be. Specifically this and this process, ex ante: Locations can be selected from a map/list of options. We can also have a discussion of whether we just want nouns glasses or also want to showcase some specific nouns (perhaps via some sort of auction that goes back to the nouns treasury).
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Great project and team but the amount of ETH and the short duration of the engagement and uncertain deliverables give me pause.
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Pro games in general, too much up front by 10x.
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Before spending $100k+ on a platform, need to see evidence that the strategy the platform is being built for has demand. Prove out more, ask for funding after having proof of potential or PMF.
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This is just a lot for celebrations. The best way to honor the Nouniversary is by earning the future.
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Very much in favor of 1. We do what we say we will do. 2 and 3 should be separate proposals. NAC shouldnt be paying Dustin ETH, its not why it exists.
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Theres no buy in from the DAO, I like the idea and the project but wont vote Yes for something that the DAO doesnt seem is integrated into what were doing enough. Good luck!
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For the Proposal for the 115 ETH, but the addition of the Noun compensation is different than what was proposed before this got on chain (doc still reflects this) and is a major change. That type of major change should be documented, discussed and socialized before the vote goes on-chain.
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