Proposal 260 (Q115)
From Nouns Dev
A Nouns proposal.
| Language | Label | Description | Also known as |
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| English | Proposal 260 |
A Nouns proposal. |
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Forgeries - ALL are FAKE except ONE
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30 March 2023
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Following Nounders
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things i appreciate: 1. gamis constant persuit to do things while almost always proliferating nouns 2. deployed as a public good but, the lottery-like system feels a bit too not-nounish for me.
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Two concerns here: 1. Not clear where the funding from the droposal is going to (my assumption is it is going 100% to the forgeries team, but that is not specified here). If thats the case, I dont see a clear value flow back to Nouns here, implicitly or explicitly - other than just the artwork being a Noun. 2. The mechanic, while conceptually interesting, does unfortunately feel a bit like selling lottery tickets. I dont personally think thats aligned with our values/something we should endorse via droposal.
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I think this project is clever and wish it success. But I fail to see why it should be launched via DAO proposal, especially without a share of open edition proceeds going to the treasury.
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Lots of smaller gripes here that add up to something that doesnt feel nounish. (Fwiw i appreciate gami taking a lot of shots on goal even if this one isnt doing it for me.)
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I love gamis ideas/energy in general but this one I struggle to think the dao should endorse through a droposal given the mechanisms involved here dont feel particularly nounish to me.
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I think this is a really fun idea and it seems like it is being executed really well. (Though I wish it was less of an after-mint raffle and more of a one of these in the real one up front.) But I am not sure this should be a droposal from the DAO. Droposals are a new pattern that were still figuring out, but my feeling is they should mainly be used for ratifying/approving of works that were funded by the DAO. They also generally involve revenue back to the DAO, which does not seem to be the case here. So for these reasons, I am voting against. Wish the team all the best, nonetheless!
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Love Gami and this idea, but hear the community feedback. Re-group and figure out a way to get this into the world~
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The art is beautiful here, I respect that youve positioned this all as an open source public good, have more games planned, and covered the development and public audit costs yourselves. Personally Im interested in seeing you explore on-chain mechanics that are a bit more creative, and if youre looking to launch the collection from the Nouns I think you will have more success if you return a percentage of the ETH back to the DAO.
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Back yourself: find your people, know your place, do your thing ⌐◨-◨
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This very Nounish team has big plans for composable gaming in the Nouns ecosystem and I believe in them. Forgeries is so well done balancing fun and absurdity while proving an on-ramp for new people to learn about Nouns, with gaming contracts available for anyone else to use.
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This is such a fun experiment. No downside in my eyes. Let them cook.
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Reasons given in my newsletter: https://paragraph.xyz/@thebower/active-governance-noun-582-5
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This is interesting and could be good success story for Nouns. The downside of a Droposal is also minimal.
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If one of the DAOs main objectives is to spread the Nouns meme, Forgeries accomplishes this effectively. Its well-crafted, incorporates Noun-like attributes, and utilizes a Noun as the central prize. The lack of a funding request makes it even more appealing. Its heartening to see projects that arent driven solely by financial gain but instead prioritize building alongside the DAO. Droposals are one of my favorite things about Nouns and we should be embracing them. By supporting this project, we not only help grow Nouns, we also encourage a culture of creativity.
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**FOR - 33 VOTES** **Benbodhi** | *⌐◨-◨* **AGAINST - 10 VOTES** **EltonPenguin** | *Seems silly*
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Omega
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30 March 2023
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Forgeries - ALL are FAKE except ONE is the first release from Omega, a public goods hyperstructure on Ethereum. The project, inspired by MSCHFs drop, mixes the real Noun 401 into an open edition of exact forgeries. After the drop, minters authenticate through a Japanese gameshow style experience.
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What is the difference between this and a straightforward raffle? I’m wondering if this will be used to “quiet sell” nouns while giving an illusion of value to buyers (raffles have an expected value of 0). --I really wouldn’t wanna see nouns in the gambling market
While there is an element of last man standing as with raffles, the Forgeries protocol is built in such a way that various games can be built on top of this mechanic. Holders of the losing forgeries will have voting power on Prop House to fund builders creating new experiences and vote on which asset is acquired next. They will also be involved in new experiences being deployed as cartridges and can participate in DAO vs DAO experiences or guild vs guild. The protocol allows developers, artists, collectors, and DAOs to build various experiences on top of it.
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