0xa86882277e69fbf0a51805cdc8b0a3a113079e63 (Q392)
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As someone who works with nounish imagery almost on a daily basis, there is definitely a desire for more nounish typeface alternatives. And while i think the current glyphs of the Nouns Display font has some ways to go, i believe Marco will get there. Zooming out for a bit, one of my deepest convictions re nouns is the compounding value of binding great people to the dao. Allow people who already love nouns to spend their full attention and mind-space on this experiment for some time and beautiful things tend to happen. This pattern has played out over and over. I believe Marco is a great person to expand Nouns to new audiences in typography and graphic design. 18 eth is a very modest ask relative to the potential upside, and just looking at raw opportunity cost, i think its a no-brainer for the dao to fund Marco.
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This vote is a bet on the founder. Im a fan of 5oc, hes proven himself to be great at execution (eg, organizing an NYC sailing event never having been to NYC) and an ability to iterate and adapt to improve on his ideas which admittedly are often at the draft stage when we first get to see them. I think there is a more tightly packaged version of the Noun Computer idea hidden inside this prop. One that is even more focused on eth solo staking and better sells that narrative. However, given my belief in 5oc im happy to vote for this iteration of the prop as i expect 5 to continue to iterate and, together with the nouns community, perfect his idea over the coming months. Would it be better to reject this prop and hope 5oc comes back with another, more polished proposal? Possibly. But the nature of the ideas we fund, and early-stage funding in general, is such that not all things are neatly packaged from the start, and this is especially true for ambitious proposals. We are making bets on people to bring their ideas and dreams to life, and this is a bet i think the dao should make.
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Lets get the potential objections out of the way first -- I get it, its a large price tag and the retainer model can be an awkward fit for a dao doing its best to decentralize every aspect of itself. But goldy/pixel and the nounish team are best-in-class and a true privilege for the dao to have a close relationship with — we want the best teams in the world to spend 100% of their time with nouns; this is certified Good Use of Treasury! Without creative energy, this dao is just an empty shell with a decently sized war chest for self-interested individuals to fight over. A vote For nounish is a vote for builders, for dreamers and for everyone who fell in love with this beautiful experiment in the first place. A vote for nounish is a vote for the creatives and true fans who make up the very heart of this movement. ⌐◨-◨
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Its not yet clear to me what DQ parameters are actually healthy for the dao long term - there are good arguments to bring them up, or down, and its anyones guess what the perfect equilibrium would be. But for now, im in favor of reducing max quorum.
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https://twitter.com/krel404/status/1653510860201947140?s=46&t=HMDCibI3Hl5luKRaTagiHA
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https://twitter.com/krel404/status/1652776736734474240?s=46&t=HMDCibI3Hl5luKRaTagiHA
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Beautiful hardware and excited to fund an artist spending their full attention on nouns. These are the type of things that create positive ripples and brand recognition in communities still unaware of nouns.
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Easy yes so gonna QA nounsvote.wtf -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1IbRujko-A&ab_channel=10Hours ⌐◨-◨ 原作をかなり自由に脚色し、背景にはスタッフがロケハンしたスウェーデンのストックホルム及びゴットランド島のヴィスビュー、宮崎自身が1988年（昭和63年）5月に個人的に旅行したアイルランド、その他サンフランシスコ、リスボン、パリ、ナポリなどの風景を織り交ぜて使っている[17]。街の名前は、劇場公開時のパンフレットによれば原作のまま「コリコ」の街とされている。この街では白黒テレビが普及している一方でボンネットバスや大きな飛行船が使われているなど、現代ではなく過去の時代を舞台にしているものとみられる（宮崎によれば「二度の大戦を経験しなかったヨーロッパ」という設定）。ストックホルムとヴィスビューは宮崎がAプロダクション（シンエイ動画）時代の1971年（昭和46年）に幻の映画企画『長くつ下のピッピ』のロケハンで訪れた場所でもある。
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https://twitter.com/krel404/status/1643597377083719682?s=20
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I wish this prop was better in many ways but after much consideration rather fund the team to cont working on this pod than not.
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Idk if this sets a weird precedent or whatever but jacob does so much good for this _movement_ Im happy to give him 1 eth
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After some consideration gonna take a leap of faith here. Think we gonna regret passing on this.
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i dont love every aspect of this prop but the almost uncapped longterm potential (creating a nounish subculture within basketball) outweigh my own personal pet peeves
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https://create.zora.co/collections/0xb6e8e1b617a10f0123c9bd57011493754ff6a361
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What Noun40 said. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRbfFDB8I0g
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I wish parts of this prop were better but ultimately pros outweigh cons.
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Somewhat reluctantly voting For. Despite the noggles, this is essentially charity for charitys sake which Im not that excited to fund. MuchoLove states that they aim to develop a model that is replicable internationally, and Id like to see more of that before I vote to fund them again. For now, they get a pass because they are authentic and are doing fundamentally good things.
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A reluctant Yes. I hope we dont have to fund similar props in the future. I also hope the dao can better guide prop builders to avoid similar scenarios going fwd.
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https://www.giantbomb.com/a/uploads/original/11/118820/2132491-1555712-252150_gerstmann100_463_super_super.jpg
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Booth looking great, lots of presence for a pretty small ask. Afaik, we havent tried this type of convention floor booth presence before and its an experiment worth running.
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ez yes, lets double down on things that seem to work
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The idea of high-quality nouns clothing got me interested in this prop, but what sold me was jacobs energy and excitement. Enabling creators/builders to do cool things with nouns — while expressing their love for nouns to new audiences — is one of the best ways to spread the meme.
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As far as I can tell, the two verbs are doing stellar, much-needed work.
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While this might not be a complete home run in the proliferation department, I believe we should look for reasons to fund projects like this rather than reasons not to. When it comes to making nouns known and recognizable IRL, every effort matters.
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Easy yes for me. Attract builders to Nouns while experimenting with single-point-of-failure resistance.
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Building around NOC is a cultural superpower we should embrace and experiment with furiously
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The nouns from space (satellite imagery) aspect of this is exciting to me. The rest of the prop is a bit of a mixed bag and i wish it tried to do less things at once. I choose to back this mostly due to the persistence and goodwill of the proposer, but going forward Im not very eager to back props like this.
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Solid use of ETH. Noggle exposure in a fun, unintrusive way. Seoul and the Hangang river seem like a good location.
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Voted For, with a couple hesitations: - Its hard not to directly compare this to prop 95 (Art Basel). This is a weaker prop, for more ETH. - It leaves a bad taste sponsoring events where Nouns are a part, but not the center of the show. I dislike when Nouns are shown side by side with, imo, questionable projects (MAYC etc) and by extension we end up sponsoring these projects too. Ultimately I still think this is a pretty easy Yes and will make Nouns known to a new audience.
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I was very close to voting No on this. A few things won me over: - The teams willingness to iterate on the prop and make it leaner. I believe they can cont to iterate and improve throughout the project - The (seeming) importance of spreading nouns IRL - The opportunity cost — id rather give this team a chance to prove themselves at the cost of ~1 days auction proceeds. Running this experiment will teach us something. Denying it means standing still.
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I dont think this prop makes a sufficiently good case for how it will proliferate nouns. However, after giving it some thought, Ive decided to support this on the basis of potential outsized upside. It might draw a completely new sphere of people to Nouns, and this initiative _might_ resonate much further than the prop suggests. For 12 ETH thats a bet Im willing to make.
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While poap v1 was not entirely w/o problems id like to see the team take another shot at this. Ultimately, projects built around the auction/NOC are worthwhile endeavors we should cont to experiment with. I also like the way brkfstsndwch has responded to criticism re poap v1.
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E-sports can be a great way to do digital activations outside of the crypto sphere. DOTA prop 68 seems like a success so far. Welcome more experiments like this. (Also, making a tiiny initial move in the direction of Nintendo/Pokemon is enticing.)
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Brennen said it best so ill echo that: I think IRL activations are fairly important to start building a real brand outside of just crypto folks. Not to convert or do even get them to ever visit a website. Its really just to see the noggles and be like hey that was cool so when they see them again we start to build this consistent identity. These plays help us build long term brand value.
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coffee good || noo, most ppl just buy cheap-ass coffee anyway (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ || coffee good
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Unique opportunity by someone uniquely positioned to execute on it.
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Nouns should celebrate outstanding achievements in our immediate ecosystem.
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mucho warms my heart (the video!!) and they continue to grow in their execution and ambitions as a charity arm of nounsdao excited to fund and follow their continuous growth
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Realized my initial take might be unnecessarily petty and gatekeepish, and did a 180 on this. Letting things happen is nounish.
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I think you should consider repackaging this idea/product. Instead of focusing on what would be good/useful for the community, laser-focus on what users might throw themselves over today.
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I dont feel good about supporting this type of event. I dont think its an effective or interesting way of spreading nouns. On the other hand, i admit that i dont understand the Brazilian nouns community enough (how it came to be, how it grows, etc) to confidently vote against. Happy to support the team in other ways in the future.
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I want to support this but i think this is one of the cases where its better for the community to push back and let the prop builder come back with a more refined proposal (see eg senecas feedback). I also think there is much to gain from the team working more closely with the immediate nouns community to get this product just right.
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Appreciate Necfas and the work that went into this prop. When it comes to clothing, i think the play rn is to make a single garment that feels/looks great and figure out how to get it into peoples hands (both nouners and nayners), then scale up.
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Following in senecas footsteps here. I want this/the team to succeed but unable to build conviction in this particular solution.
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Dont know enough about this to confidently take a side
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I have tried but fail to fall in love with these machine-generated noun copies. Something about this is not thought-provoking, weird, nor endearing enough for me to get excited. On the plus side, i appreciate that Artmatr want to dedicate their time to nouns, and perhaps the butterfly effect of that engagement is reason enough to support a prop like this. Hence, Abstain.
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Im supportive of this community and want it to thrive but this prop failed to win my attention.
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+1 Onions VwR Extra rant: I would love to fund the Japanese community in other ways, e.g., fund Tagawa to draw noun murals all over japan. Or create some cultural landmark that can serve a similar purpose to the conference in terms of bringing the community together.
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Dont think this type of marketing brings the right kind of awareness. Nouns is not a lifestyle brand, but a meaningfulness brand.
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mostly against the 65k sponsorship which i dont think is great use of funds
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the dao should be careful endorsing products and this proposed partnership seems very one-sided in favor of NFTR
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Its clear arash love nouns but i just dont find this exciting
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Im pro oni doing community work, and while the intentions of this prop is likely well-meaning, i think it acts to re-centralize nouns in a way that i believe is a step in the wrong direction.
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I dont understand what this prop aims to do. It motions vaguely towards nounish activities and collaborations, but doesnt say anything concrete or in-depth about how to do any of these things. Are we funding someone to start thinking about nouns?
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The nouns namespace is a double-edged sword. On the one hand, giving builders access to the nouns namespace can act as strong signaling and help boost projects. On the other hand, it can create unfair market advantages and act to suppress future (competitive) projects ability to succeed or even willingness to try. Im not sure, so Im voting against this time, but i suspect theres also a decent probability this vote will age poorly.
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Something about archival and searchability of nounish media is interesting/useful, but the pieces dont quite come together for me here. There is probably a version of this prop that i would support though. https://twitter.com/krel404/status/1650761375751237633?s=20
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big fan of the team but im worried this prop is in fact a trojan horse
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Not exciting or weird enough -- i could see myself vote for these type of goods but i would like to see more heart. This iteration of the prop feels a bit too checkbox exercisey.
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Reasoning: https://twitter.com/krel404/status/1643186267239198720?s=20
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Lots of smaller gripes here that add up to something that doesnt feel nounish. (Fwiw i appreciate gami taking a lot of shots on goal even if this one isnt doing it for me.)
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I think this is a fine cause/initiative, but its hard for me to get excited by Nouns involvement. Just slapping noggles on stuff is not very interesting and, i think, a pretty poor way of spreading nouns.
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Appreciate digoil taking their time to re-submit but dont think this is a good direction for governance.
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I second Deployers comment — this prop is trying to do too many things at once. Id simplify and focus on one specific problem to solve.
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Voting Against to demonstrate the need for private voting is somewhat overblown. On a more serious note: Im a big proponent of nounsdao funding public goods, especially in the software/crypto/ethereum domain, so on the one hand, i love this initiative. But Ive come to the conclusion that private voting acts to further dehumanize nounsdao, and that, on net, we gain from having faces (or avatars) attached to votes for as long as possible. I believe nounsdao is better off in a world where voting comes with some social pressure to take responsibility and publicly stand behind voting decisions. I acknowledge social pressure also swings the other way (relationship costs, nepotism, etc) but Im willing to make that tradeoff vs cold, faceless PvP. Even though the prop clearly says that whether to implement private voting is still TBD, I think funding this prop would heavily signal that nounsdao want to also adopt private voting eventually. I would be interested in funding a prop that is better at keeping nounsdao private voting at arms length from the research, but im somewhat vary that even that would lead to eventual/quicker implementation of private voting.
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Failed to build enough conviction in this prop/team despite trying and wanting to do so.
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Yes to somehow engage MrBeast, but No to the specific execution of this prop. I welcome further iteration here and can probably be swayed to a Yes eventually.
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I think its fair to say that the Nouncil has been subsidized by the official discord server and i would like to hold off on further funding until we see what type of competition pops up in the aftermath of shutting it down.
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NSFW serves a very important function, and 22 does a valiant job running it. However, im voting against based on a perceived lack of transparency and decentralization. When it comes to DAO operations, there is an obvious tension between speed/efficiency and decentralization. The tradeoffs on either side of this spectrum are very real and often hard to grapple with. Im mindful of that. But for a pod like this, theres a minimum level of decentralization that should be maintained, and its not clear to me if that is currently being met. Whether intentional or due to gravitational forces of path of least resistance, my perception is that NSFW currently errs too much on the side of efficiency. Ive given this considerable thought and am aware of the tradeoffs, but ultimately think its better for the daos longterm health and culture to push back and check itself in favor of preserving a high integrity re decentralization. Instead of simply refilling the wallet, I think its prudent to ask the dao how they think this role should be operated. I will vote For a proposal of this kind with a 3/5 multisig, a public channel of communication, and ideally a diverse set of (active) signers of different backgrounds and expertise to make sure we cover the full range of ideas and builders who seek retro funding/grants.
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Dont have enough conviction adding nouns to a random app us a good idea.
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I would love to support a game-related proposal but this approach does not work for me. I dont quite know what an exciting gaming prop looks like, but i think the guiding star should be to go narrow and focus on quality, not broad/quantity. Forget about distribution or proliferation for a moment and just make an incredible (indie) game. (Something Fez-like comes to mind as directionally interesting.)
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Im generally supportive and excited about Nouns x Tennis ideas, but the nft platform makes this hard to support and, overall, the prop lacks a degree of authenticity that Im looking for in proposals.
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