Proposal 92 (Q1785)

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Proposal 92
A Nouns proposal.

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    David Horvath / Nouns Studio1 extension
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    Enthusiastic to support an extension for David.
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    Sharks like where this is headed, keep up the great work David!
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    Were lucky to have David in our community. Want to support his proliferation efforts as much as possible.
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    No question. The power of David cannot be stopped.
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    David horvath / nouns studio1
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    David Horvath / Nouns Studio1 extension Please see: and for additional context: This proposal will transfer 60 ETH to the address provided by David: 0xA8C9FFF404EF60876922E91E2f93e727F9c16264
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    (also important to know that we are not really making toys. At no time during anything we are doing our proposing. Do I expect there to be children buying things we make. The primary consumer initially are adult women.)
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    And I would recommend Dunkin’ Donuts South Korea far before I would recommend KFC China for nouns…--The cool kids in China know Dunkin’ Donuts Korea is where the cool kids go --Sorry to use such phrases as cool kids, but it is what it is for simplicity sake
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    Do you think Nouns Studio 1 and NounsOTG can coexist? We’re currently funding both and I’m wondering if we’re shooting ourselves in the foot by pursuing your mission AND putting a lot of money into marketing Nouns via IRL activations.
    Nouns Studio 1 and NounsOTG can coexist because they target different aspects of the protocol and have different focuses. The Japan activation through the Alpine culture is far removed from character culture in the city, and it would take quite some time for overlap. The other activations are in territories or with groups that would have no crossover impact on what is being done in Nouns Studio 1.
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    If you get funded, would this be your sole focus for 2023 or do you have other non noun commitments? For 200k I’d expect this to be someone’s sole focus
    While Nouns Studio 1 is not David Horvath's sole focus, he is 100% all in and believes that Nouns directly benefits from his larger activities within the industries where he excels. If he made Nouns his sole focus, Nouns would miss out on those benefits.
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    I have my own set of questions for noun holders or collective voters, simply - do they view nouns as a character brand or a brand at all? This would include nouns being a potential storytelling vehicle, or is it viewed as strictly a protocol? --Would love to hear and will present this question live in Twitter spaces over the coming days..
    Opinions on whether Nouns are viewed as a character brand or strictly a protocol may vary among Noun holders and collective voters. One user, frog#3881, expressed that they personally do not see Nouns as a storytelling vehicle and prefer to view Nouns as a symbol of a movement to fund public goods, such as art, tech infrastructure, and traditional philanthropy. They also suggested that it might be better for the Nouns treasury to fund art that isn't explicitly trying to incorporate the Nouns brand but is instead simply a partnership with Nouns the DAO.
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    Seems like a big ask when the only outcomes so far are a couple of introductions. How are we able to measure the impact of introductions? This isn't my area of expertise but I would expect more after 6 months of time? Not trying to be too pessimistic but trying to be realistic that its important to try to measure these sorts of things
    It is difficult to measure the impact of introductions in this context, as they involve multiple conversations and steps to determine if there is a good match for potential projects. The process includes explaining Nouns DAO, sparking interest, and discussing funding and project basics. This can take several weeks or months before arriving at a decision. The value of these introductions and efforts lies in the potential for long-term growth and becoming part of the culture, rather than just marketing.
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    The thing I’m trying to come to terms with is why do we care so much about attracting the attention of people who are so hard to convince it’s worth their time? Seems like a big song and dance and potentially months of time to possibly get a “it’s not a match” by some bigwig. I love how nouns has been able to proliferate itself and attract the attention of such a broad community on its own, even without the help of high profile industry veterans.
    It is not clear whether Nouns Studio 1 and NounsOTG can coexist, as the question was not directly answered in the conversation. However, the conversation does provide insights into the goals and strategies of Nouns Studio 1, which focuses on becoming one with culture and achieving evergreen ubiquity rather than marketing to it.
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    <@!813421644298321961> Do you want me to put a proposal together? or jump on a quick call to discuss ?
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    <@816727974485164062> I would like to send 50 sets of NOGGLEs to the opening night for all of the artists to wear. maybe 10 sets of chrome too as special gifts?
    It seems that sending 10 sets of NOGGLEs, one for each artist, would be amazing if the cost and shipping logistics can be figured out. The packaging might need to be dropped in favor of bubble wrap to save size, weight, and avoid customs issues.
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    can the sofubi be heads only? can they be head and torso only (like nouns.wtf are)
    The question about whether the sofubi can be heads only or head and torso only was not directly answered in the conversation. However, there were discussions about various design ideas and dimensions, including keeping the head-to-body ratio the same and considering different base options.
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    do we know total supply for the sofubis? and what sort of distribution/availability there will be outside of the collector shops in Asia
    Total supply for the sofubis is not mentioned in the conversation. However, David Horvath#5438 mentions that fully painted versions ready for storefronts won't happen until early next year due to delays at the factories in Japan. For distribution in the US, they are talking with various institutions and stores, and they are working on a way for holders to make sure they don't miss out on each version produced. For the rest of the world, they are in discussions to set up an easy-to-order-from English-based website operating out of Japan.
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    do we want them to look more like the actual nouns?
    Yes, the closer the designs get to the actual nouns while maintaining the glasses, the better. The glasses are like the Nike swoosh.
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    Had a great call with <@!816727974485164062> and <@!813421644298321961> where we had a chance to talk about some of the key nounish design elements and dial in a direction for look. As we talked about the arms/hands 4156 wondered if the figure should have just one arm as a conscious design choice and now I don't think you can ever unsee this great idea. what do you think?
    Based on the conversation, there are mixed opinions about having one-armed Nouns. Some users find it more cute, while others prefer the original two-handed design. There isn't a clear consensus on whether the one-armed design should be adopted.
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    Hello guys....is there anyway to find the nouns font alphabet template ?
    The nouns font alphabet template can be found at https://nouns.center/assets.
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    Hey Hey GM to all you awesome peeps! After a few intense days of playing around with these shapes we want to share the first set of designs for NOUNS SOFUBI series 1. I propose we go with 2 body styles, Sitting and Standing and 4 heads. Onion, Sushi, Cloud and the SHARK! these colors are for show only and are not final we will explore the colors as we move to the next stages. What do you guys think?
    Based on the conversation, the community members provided feedback on the proposed NOUNS SOFUBI series 1 designs. They discussed the round white heads, the character's physique, head/body ratios, and the potential for different colors and shapes. Some concerns were raised about the nigiri and onion designs, as well as the cloud head's potential overlap with Friends With You's brand recognition. Overall, the conversation provided various opinions and suggestions for the designs, but no definitive conclusion was reached.
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    How did I not see this proposal before? I'm studying a lot about toy art these days
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    I know this is probably somewhere up in the discussions above - but just want to clarify something for myself again: since this is not a toy, it is good and normal for sofubi to not be more “posed” is that right? Like there’s no need to bring forth more character or sense of action because that’s not the goal of these objects, right? I’m enjoying seeing the progression towards nounishness ❤️
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    Is our goal to make it look as close to the pixel art Nouns as possible? or something more open to creative interpretation like one of Messhups drawings?
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    is something like Void impossible or do you just cheat it with semi-transparent blocks in-between to give it actual structure?
    In sofubi, you can mold it in clear and then paint the outline. If this was done as a different process and was modeled in ABS similar to bearbricks, you can do all sorts of interesting options.
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    Just an example-do we want to rounded edges or the sharper pixel art?
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    klim, what’s the best way to prototype something like this? if we get some zbrush experiments going, can we use 3d printjng services for rapid prototyping?
    Bigshot Klim#1853: the most effecient way to do this is to just hire me LOL seriously, we do this all day and I already work well with David , the Japanese factory and have my own ideas for this project. I can go off the sketches and bounce ideas around with you guys and get it done in record time. Regarding printing services: they will print what you give them so the design, production ready files etc will all be up to whoever is creating the assets, If it was me, we would handle all the print work here in the US before sending anything to tool in JP.--The best way to prototype something like this is to hire Bigshot Klim, who has experience in this field and already works well with David and the Japanese factory. They can create the design and production-ready files, and handle the print work in the US before sending it to Japan for tooling.
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    not a big fan of one-handed nouns tbh (they dont show in the original artwork because the body is tilted and they are behind the body, right? why would we turn that into a one-handed 3d nouns🤔 )
    The one-handed Nouns are a conscious design choice, as discussed by Bigshot Klim#1853. They mention that the side with no arm would allow for interesting paint applications and designs for multiple varieties of executions. The intent is to create an art object with character, not an on-model action figure.
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    on model = approximately 3dnouns?
    Yes, on model means approximately 3D Nouns, as mentioned by David Horvath#5438.
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    other collaborations opened by Sofubi... Ultraman and Thunderbirds ( Thunderbirds, from the UK, was very popular with the older gen in Japan ) . These were on pretty much every corner in Tokyo, Kyoto etc, in UFO catcher machines and other venues... not that nouns would want to be found in such places ( or yes? Did wonders for us ) but the opportunities for growth can be found once there is some success at high brand spots as above . Again, these were all for adults.
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    See above for the Twitter handles and Instagram accounts of some of the creators participating in the Nouns exhibition…the exhibition in Japan is being kept incredibly intimate and physically small in favor of focusing on the location which is in shinjuku inside the Marui department store, right across from very specific other spots, whereas the show in Korea will most likely be held in an actual gallery and there’s more importance placed on the neighborhood.
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    some notes on garlic. see foot bottom. Need to find balance between this and side of leg VS balance point so no tip over. Suggest no lines carved into head, use paint. <a:blue:930428211224002631> Question: design the top like the actual garlic noun? vs Too real garlic top... being on model is cuter, paint can indicate top of garlic if needed. <a:red:930781944000688138> ( mouth: no smile ) <a:yellow:930474894527979601>
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    The heads are by design very big and bulky.. if we were to only use the head and body, the body would have to have a bigger base than the head and therefore the size of the head relative to body would fade, no? So if we wanted to keep the original dimensions, some sort of base, either some cube (as in the sitting companion by kaws) or a sitting body for the nouns seems like the logical outcome. What do you think <@816727974485164062>
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    The sunset collar would be cool. Will the accessories be shown only as a strip of color (left) or actually painted on in full detail (right)?
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    this one definitely satisfies david's otaku constraint. does it skew a bit too young? i feel like it's cute because it resembles a baby, rather than cute because it resembles a noun
    The question about whether the design skews too young was addressed by Bigshot Klim#1853. They mentioned that they were careful to avoid features that would give the character a more childlike look and that the design will evolve once new heads are added. This is just the first pass, and the public build offers interesting opportunities for further development.
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    we could always go after the western market/more traditional shapes after the sofubis with the initial propsal? assuming the conviction is still there as the designs come together
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    what about adding a toadz and/or noadz to the run? advantage being body comes natively
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    Who are you thinking of using to produce them, I've always wanted to mess with toy production on the side not really noun related
    David Horvath#5438 is considering using the spot they've been making toys in Japan since 2002 or the spot where they made their mothman and Uglydolls. Another option is the place where they made the bossy bear finger puppets. Both options are great and have a mom and pop operation with major history.
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    Would ice cream cone noun be too cliche?
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