0x83fcfe8ba2fece9578f0bbafed4ebf5e915045b9 (Q210)
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https://twitter.com/punk4156/status/1658098408584871939
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https://twitter.com/Goldypix/status/1658472216563154945 https://twitter.com/benjaminlatsko/status/1658421062550319106 https://twitter.com/0Hindsight/status/1657856004762025990 Some really great discourse around this prop. Ultimately side with the arguments made by Wilson and Benjamin, with the caveat that I think Nounish still hasnt found product/market fit for their talents. Id love to see more experimentation in the next 6 months and would probably not vote FOR a third renewal if this term only yields more marketing videos. Special thanks to Goldy, 142 and the rest of the team for all their hard work and the risks theyve taken going all in on Nouns.
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not exactly sure where all of this is heading, but gut says its the right move to double down on adam, nouns comics, and the set of relationships and possible future relationships that we can build in this vertical. even if we gave away 100% of the inventory at comicon, I think wed still be in a better place than with the equivalent money sitting idly in the treasury. this is an opportunity to onboard ten thousand creatives into the nouns ecosystem.
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difficult to think of a more natural meeting place for holders and artists than an nft-native production company. very exciting trend!
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thoughtful prop from thoughtful builders. relationship pricing, sound reasoning wrt market and opportunity. seems like an experiment worth trying imo. im surprised theres so many against
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had a call with the proposers and i believe them to be both genuine and have an understanding of the market and relationships within it that are not accessible to those of us outside china. its a risky prop, but the risk feels justifiable given the size of the market it could unlock and the amount we might learn from a preliminary attempt to proliferate there
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Things that are scarce: talented community leaders who are willing to commit a year of their life flying around the world to evangelize Nouns. Things that are not scarce: treasury ETH. Thank you Aubtoshi. Make us proud!
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increase in community size, number of props, ongoing de/recentralization of communication channels = increase in overall complexity. makes sense to give ourselves more time to consider each action as the inputs get more chaotic
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theres nothing more critical to the success of this project than attracting builders like victor and giving them the resources they need to have a positive impact in their community. if we can retain them after the fact with the gift of a noun, thats even better. marketing spend feels high, but i think this is a case where we might want to lean into the asymmetric upside and see what happens. big fan of the video proposal and slide deck. thank you victor!
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appreciate the founders flexibility based on feedback from the dao, and proposal is unique enough that im curious to see how this plays out. everyone ive mentioned it to thinks this proposal is hilarious, and that fact alone has a lot of memetic power and potential asymmetry. to the mooon!
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fun, interesting, and nft-native proposal that takes advantage of CC0, funds talented artists and furthers nounsdao awareness among top tier creatives. more like this please!
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ask is reasonable and (after basic dd) the team looks solid. id like to see where this goes!
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at first i was against because 50 ETH is a lot of capital for a relatively small event (800 people), but looking into this further, i think that POV is too myopic. this is probably the most forward thinking experiment happening at the intersection of crypto and culture, and imo it’s important and interesting for nouns to be involved. it’s too literal to think about this in terms of direct attention ROI. it’s about positioning nouns at the cutting edge of culture, and forming long-term relationships with people and organizations in the space that will go on to do interesting things. heavily FOR
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personally very interested in understanding how companies with existing distribution networks can leverage nouns / help nouns. experiments in open source in the CPG domain are probably also very rare and worth embracing when they happen
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this is such a fun idea and the cards with the noggles stamps are delightful. if this passes would encourage the team to be just as thoughtful with the other design elements. good luck!
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bullish on oni, but dao sponsored social layer is as bad an idea as state sponsored media. these systems are already extremely reflexive and very sensitive to group think & capture. if it were possible to engineer, i would expect that we’d actually want to penalize each incremental participant who joins a given social space to overcome the natural tendency towards group think / probability that the dao gets captured by a single in-group. this proposal effectively does the opposite, applying leverage to an already existing bias. you can read more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asch_conformity_experiments
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echoing sentiment of other voters that no piece of infrastructure should be canonical. also, as pointed out by 9999, resent that the dao getting its money back is tied to the outcome of this vote
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it seems possible, or even probable that this will be repurposed to attempt to enforce a floor price for nouns, which im strongly against. also, if verbs current rage quit wip is implemented, the dao will have plenty of noun inventory to redistribute without the need to interfere with daily auctions
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not against this in principle, but voting against bc the design mock is uninteresting and low effort. given that the brand is otherwise open source and not subject to quality control, we should have a high bar for design & brand standards in the products that are directly funded by the treasury. would vote yes on a more thoughtfully designed version of this product
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props that are instructive but dont modify on-chain state are a slippery slope and i feel reasonably strongly that they should be avoided. in the long run they could mire the dao in uncertainty and possibly even legal disputes. its a more scalable approach to assume that any funds or assets that are external to the dao are the purview of the individuals or groups that control them. in the case of this proposal, the decision should be made by NAC
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Personally uncomfortable staking more than 1/3 of DAOs ETH until staking services are more Lindy. Would support diversification of current position into rETH but strongly against adding additional risk at this time.
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im not convinced that any meaningful DD will be completed in the extra 4 days. we should aim to spend the minimum amount of nouner time & attention voting on hell yes proposals, vs maximizing time spent staring at mediocre ones. proposal threshold and quorum feel like better parameter adjustments to achieve this
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agree that we should be staking the eth, but would like to see the strategy diversified into rocketpool
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i think its beneficial for both projects if the reward continues as specified at the outset of lilnouns
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voting against because the bet size is too large relative to the culture fit. am generally supportive of ambitious proposers with large distribution channels but they have to be a better fit with nouns culture and aesthetic. thank you to the proposers and the nouns esports group
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i continue to not see the point of incentivizing bidding as a form of engagement with the ecosystem and am worried that between the daily auctions and now the noun oclock spaces were seeing an excessive amount of poap advertising within nouns
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have gone back and forth on this one a number of times, but ultimately going to vote against because i think the long-tail risk of outsiders perceiving the dao as careless with its resources is greater than the long-tail opportunity cost of voting down this proposal. if the artist were more prominent, i would be willing to overlook the high overhead from the team, and if the overhead were lower, i would be more willing to fund a less prominent artist. the prototype sketch also demonstrated a relatively superficial level of engagement with the project. would support working with the artist under different circumstances and less time pressure.
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i find these aesthetically difficult. i understand that several attempts have been made to provide feedback in this department, but havent seen much change in the prototypes. i appreciate klims enthusiasm and domain expertise, but think he should have another designer or creative director working with him to help convey nounishness in these toys. i would vote FOR if this criteria was met
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generally think this sort of mindless youtube content targeted at very young children is the opposite of a public good, and dont think the dao should be funding it. also, given 58k views on the first video, it looks like it could be self sustaining. appreciate your continued enthusiasm for nouns and attempts to build on the brand. would encourage you to think about more thoughtful and original childrens content as an alternative - maybe you can use the lullaby videos only as a bootstrapping mechanism for subscribers and ad revenue. good luck!
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abstaining bc i dont have the domain expertise to make an informed decision
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i see both sides on this one. appreciate the idea, founders, and efforts to proliferate the brand, but this seems like a lot of capital to allocate to something that likely doesnt require de-risking. this is a very straightforward business model and nouns are already providing brand assets and a market of consumers for the product. unsure if we should also pay 100% of initial setup and inventory costs
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its an interesting project that could be valuable to the ecosystem, but would like to see a more coherent demo before funding. everything from the domain name to the UI feels a bit sloppy. would vote FOR upon seeing a more substantial and thoughtful demo
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