Proposal 258 (Q101)
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A Nouns proposal.
| Language | Label | Description | Also known as |
|---|---|---|---|
| English | Proposal 258 |
A Nouns proposal. |
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Nouns x W3BSTOCK in NOUN YORK CITY!!!!
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similar reasons as krels reasoning.
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Imagine a world where voting does not exist. In this world, we would have no need for rules or principles. But in our world, voting is a reality. So we have a simple rule: we only vote against. We use a “Squad Vote” for each proposal. If more people vote against than vote for or abstain, we vote against on-chain. Otherwise, we abstain. This is our rule. According to the “squad vote” result for proposal 258, which is 0 for, 30 against and 0 abstain, we choose to vote against.The viewpoints of our different members are as follows (source not listed): Opinions opposing this proposal: 1. This is not community building. Its merely Satori and Bixbite doing business with Nouns, a business that is not advantageous for Nouns. 2. Satori and Bixbites remarks in the Jungle channel, such as Lil Nouns is cheap so I gave them a cheap and Lil Nouns is a toxic environment, further convince me that they do not understand the spirit of the community. They display arrogance toward the individual community members, treating DAOs and communities as cold numbers. This is the worst and most repulsive proposal and proposers I have encountered. 3. NounsDAO needs to operate in a community-driven manner, incubating more teams that understand and love the Nounish spirit. Today, NounsDAO has many teams that both love Nouns and can produce outstanding work. Yet, W3BSTOCK only seeks to be an outsourcing team, proposing a disadvantageous business deal. 4. I will continue to oppose such activities that use exposure as a gimmick. The traditional growth model that relies on increased exposure is effective because it has a unified company and growth system behind it. However, the conversion rate of each aspect of this growth method would plummet in NounsDAO, rendering it ineffective. NounsDAOs growth engine comes from numerous small teams that love Nouns and have comprehensive capabilities, as well as the establishment of specific social relationships. 5. Nouns may no longer need this type of exposure. Supporting views on the proposal: 1. A dedicated event organizer possesses sufficient professionalism. 2. They have participated in the Lilnouns community and observed the Nouns community. Although they maynt to adapt, they have their own understanding of decentralized governance issues. Points of uncertainty include: 1. Bitcoin has never rejected anyone. Conflicts between native and external
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If we choose to sponsor an event instead of creating our own, it must truly align with our goals and be an authentic and special opportunity.
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Nouns should not be sponsoring events, we should be creating our own events. Think bigger.
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Reasons given in my newsletter: https://paragraph.xyz/@thebower/active-governance-noun-582-5
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This event doesnt seem particularly Nounish and we dont think being a title sponsor is the best way to embed Nouns in events.
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I think this is a fine cause/initiative, but its hard for me to get excited by Nouns involvement. Just slapping noggles on stuff is not very interesting and, i think, a pretty poor way of spreading nouns.
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feeling similar to concerns raised
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Love seeing what the folks at w3bstock are building. #bullish
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23 March 2023
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23 March 2023
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Poll failed to meet vote threshold. **FOR - 16 VOTES** **byhardy** | *10 ETH seems cheap to nounpill this many creators that are already in web3 and (probably) familiar with Nouns. Not to mention the audience that will come to the event.* **AGAINST - 22 VOTES** **EltonPenguin** | *W3BSTOCK has under 4k followers and is getting very low engagement on their tweets. There are much better ways to spend 10 ETH.* **Josep** | *I don’t think it’s worth to spend $20000 in this event. Mainly I don’t think the integration with Nouns brand is good enough*
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Brian and Bloomz are proposing a partnership between Nouns DAO and W3BSTOCK NYC, a global live entertainment consortium that uses blockchain technology to empower artists and revolutionize th e music industry. They are requesting 10 ETH to make Nouns DAO a Title Partner of W3BSTOCK NYC.
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Brian stollery and bloomz
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1) how many attendees are there at the event? (1500). --Last year we had about 500 and we expect to triple that this year because we have triple the live music and NFT talent. --I would also want to know, but don't see: what is the total cost and total sponsorship required for the event. I.e. would nouns be putting in 5% or 95%? I can't tell. --The cost of the entire event is about $25K, so that gives you an idea. IF this prop is approved, it will make the event profitable for all of the performing artists and organizers involved, and it would bring tremendous value to the Nouns DAO within the web3 live music and entertainment community. --Previous/Current Nounish activity is activity of whom? Those proposing? --Blooomz - who activated Nounish proliferation at W3BSTOCK MIAMI and also at our Lil Nouns collab event at ETH Denver this year. ---How can more value be added to the proposal? --This gets Nouns front and center at W3BSTOCK NYC with additional Nounish proliferation at the W3BSTOCK x Nolcha Shows x CryptoPunks party on April 12th and the W3BSTOCK x Nolcha Shows party at the SLS South Beach on May 25th for Bitcoin 2023.
The event is expected to have about 1,500 attendees. The total cost of the event is approximately $25,000. If the proposal is approved, it will make the event profitable for all performing artists and organizers involved and bring value to the Nouns DAO within the web3 live music and entertainment community. Previous/Current Nounish activity refers to Blooomz, who activated Nounish proliferation at W3BSTOCK MIAMI and the Lil Nouns collab event at ETH Denver. More value can be added to the proposal by getting Nouns front and center at W3BSTOCK NYC, the W3BSTOCK x Nolcha Shows x CryptoPunks party on April 12th, and the W3BSTOCK x Nolcha Shows party at the SLS South Beach on May 25th for Bitcoin 2023.
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<@704142438855475282> Can you explain the larger ask after moving from Lil Nouns to Nouns? Seems like the only differences in scope are a 20'x20' booth instead of 10'x10' and a photobooth with an NFT claim (POAP?) but the budget is 3.5 ETH higher. --I'm also unclear on the 'ROI to the DAO' section. I think you should elaborate on *how* these things will be accomplished and why they are important. You say 'analytics' but 2 of the 6 bullets are photos, are you going to count the number of photos produced? Is that a helpful metric? Another is 'branding and proliferation' which mentions social impressions, yet the last bullet states 'aggregated brand impressions from all social media' which seems to be the same as social impressions? And for website traffic, how will you distinguish traffic generated solely from the event to the Nouns website? You also mention analytics for 7/30/90 days, again how will you attribute impacts that far after the event to the event? I think the specifics of how this will be accomplished are a relevant detail that should be included.--I had also posted a question in the Lil Nouns prop idea thread, so I'm just going to copy/paste it here, though it appears the budget breakdown has been removed from the prop so the second half isn't quite as relevant. --`will there be other sponsors, what will their packages be priced at, and what will they receive? are the merch costs listed separate of sponsorship price? if so what is the actual cost of the sponsorship? the breakdown is confusing`
The larger ask after moving from Lil Nouns to Nouns is due to the increased scope, including a 20'x20' booth instead of a 10'x10' booth and a photobooth with an NFT claim. The budget is 3.5 ETH higher because the proposer believes that the proper amount is needed for a partnership like this. The proposer also mentioned that they had initially given Lil Nouns a cheaper ask as a favor, but after not receiving the support they expected, they decided to cancel the proposal and bring the proper ask to Nouns.--Regarding the 'ROI to the DAO' section, the proposer did not provide specific details on how the metrics for 7/30/90 days will be accomplished, stating that they will be observing how another fellow Nounish individual does so and that not everything has to be explained all the time. They assured that their years of experience will suffice in getting the job done.--As for the timing concerns, the proposer mentioned that they have local production capabilities in NYC and can work on a rushed basis if needed. They also mentioned that Nouns will be partnering with W3bstock, not just sponsoring this event, and the partnership will go much
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Just because you used my proposal as a template does not mean I am involved in your proposal…. How on earth am I supposed to know how YOU plan on collecting your own data? 🤷🏼♀️
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