Proposal 325 (Q5203)
From Nouns Dev
A Nouns proposal.
| Language | Label | Description | Also known as |
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| English | Proposal 325 |
A Nouns proposal. |
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⌐◨-◨ x Pudgy Penguins
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NounsDAO and Pudgy Penguins are planning a collaboration to launch a high-end toy collection on NTWRK, with a portion of the profits used to purchase a Noun for the Huddl e in the DAO. This partnership aims to expand into a new market and connect two rapidly growing web3 brands.
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5 July 2023
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Pudgy penguins
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17 July 2023
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My two gwei: Im a yes. I like the expansionary aspect, i.e. another prominent community making inroads into Nouns. I appreciate the concerns expressed by some over the official collab framing but beyond that semantic dimension the alliance-building dimension is attractive to me. Two powerhouses experimenting nounishly together. I think the toy campaign can be a fun hit and the asking price is fair. Im down. *sent from voter.wtf*
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Love this! Proliferation + bringing more creative decentralized builders into the Noun community. All day, lets go.
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reVoteWithReason from seneca.eth > The fact that anyone can engage via CC0 makes official collaborations through props all the more special - we should embrace that! Voting yes because it is a simple and fun prop that encourages cross-community pollination. Also, they mentioned NS, which is an underrated signal on the proposers behalf. also, i believe Luka is genuinely excited of whats possible with Nouns, happy to support that excitement. *sent from voter.wtf*
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This partnership would not only introduce the Nouns to a new market but also establish a significant connection between two of the most influential web3 brands. The massive proliferation achieved during Pudgy Penguins previous toy launch demonstrates Luca and the teams expertise in generating exposure and reaching a wide audience. The sheer following and engagement of Pudgy’s socials is the easily the best in the space. Welcoming Luca into our toolkit and being able to access his knowledge and networks could really benefit the Dao and our builders.
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Pudgy Penguins is launching a new collection of toys. There will be 499 red and 499 blue penguins wearing Noggles. They are asking for 10 ETH, which will cover adding 10 gold penguins with gold plated Noggles as random prizes to the collection launch. In exchange Nouns DAO is getting extensive inclusion in the Pudgy Penguins collection marketing, generating millions of impressions to the Nouns brand. Im going to simply vote FOR. The value is here. Welcome to our world Pudgy Penguins. But I have to be honest - this collaboration could be so much more exciting. I encourage you to dive deep into Nouns DAO and look at the DAOs emergent values. Public goods, decentralized creation, absurdity, charity. There are a lot and we dont always agree on everything. Try to find something you connect with on a deeper level and make it absolutely central to the collaboration. Pudgy Penguins wants to be ALLIES IN THE FIGHT AGAINST THE EVIL BEARS OF NEGATIVITY. Very Nounish. The current proposal doesnt put up much of a fight against the evil bears. The best collaboration you can bring to the table is one that leaves us with a well crafted story to tell. Gold plated Noggles are less Nounish than say, Penguin conservation efforts, 1/1 artist collaborations, the Cut Bank penguin statue, actual igloos, the fact that penguins can dive up to 1500 ft, icebergs, Macaroni penguins, Werner Herzogs penguin doc ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KriRCtS4rs ) etc etc.
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I’d like to see Nouns follow this proposal’s example and do more modern style product releases, like this drop model on NTWRK. We can learn something about releasing our products, be they media, experiences or physical goods from Pudgy Penguins with the execution of this prop. *sent from voter.wtf*
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There is some interesting discourse around this prop. Generally I think Nouns stands to gain a lot by collaborating and connecting with active and likeminded participants of other crypto communities. Theres a lot of positive energy around what Luca has built with Pudgy Penguins, and while Im certainly critical of the actual pfp utility model, I think that this synergy with that community can activate a lot of people in the NFT community. So I like that. 10 ETH is not much cost to the DAO, but yields an alignment with an active and positive community that seems to genuinely be nounpilled.
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Love this! Proliferation + bringing more creative decentralized builders into the Noun community. All day, lets go.
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Only voting yes because of that shoey
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we are interested in running this experiment and seeing what other doors it can open for cross brand collab
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📈🔔📉 mid pudge in disbelief *sent from voter.wtf*
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Its a lightweight way to expand noggles onto interesting outward looking activations with other communities. Pudgies have a really motivated group of fanbase and I can see why bringing them into the fold with a relatively low ask is +EV. I like that buying a noun to truly get skin in the game is part of the proposal. I would love for the DAO to have some form of added incentive (e.g. revshare) for a co-branding activity for larger scope proposals. I echo some concerns others have brought up about gold-plating being not really synonymous to being nounish. I could see why that sort of fits the perceived rarity and exclusiveness within the pudgy ecosystem though. Something to note for future activations when Pudgies come back - There is a reason why there are no gold nouns in the nounish canon :) At its core cc0 is all about permissionless brand usage and storytelling. Remixing and Rebuilding. However ... during the early stages of the birth of such a story, its important that the stewards seeding the ecosystem help curate what would be perceived as canon later down the line. There is inherently something powerful when a group of DAO participants come together to formally provide a stamp of acceptance to a variation of that cc0 usage. For outside world, that is canon. This may continue to change and become irrelevant perhaps over-time but early on its fun for lean into this social construct.
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reVoteWithReason from joelcares.eth *sent from voter.wtf*
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At 10ETH, there is not much to loose and this seems like a positive sum game for both our communities. Love the fact that they want to use this prop to generate income to buy a Noun - thats the flywheel effect in action! I agree with previous reasons from nounalysis, nounburger, seneca etc and vote FOR!
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Realized my initial take might be unnecessarily petty and gatekeepish, and did a 180 on this. Letting things happen is nounish.
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The fact that anyone can engage via CC0 makes official collaborations through props all the more special - we should embrace that! Voting yes because it is a simple and fun prop that encourages cross-community pollination. Also, they mentioned NS, which is an underrated signal on the proposers behalf. *sent from voter.wtf*
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**FOR - 49 VOTES** **benbodhi** | (•v•) ( •v•)> ⌐◨-◨ (⌐◨v◨) **akva556** | *pudgy pudgy* **bigshotklim** | *met this crew i. person and this is a good fit.* **AGAINST - 3 VOTES** **eltonpenguin** | *I love Pudgy Penguins and Luca Netz but this benefits them way more than it benefits us. The mechanics are unclear, as is the benefit. It seems like the proposal capitalizes most on the Pudgy Penguin brand without being specific about the execution.* **ABSTAINS - 1 VOTES** *sent from voter.wtf*
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Im excited about the Pudgy Penguin universe and would love to see a crossover!
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Pudgy Penguins are an undeniable force inside and outside the echo chamber of crypto & NFTs. I don’t think anyone denies that. I am voting in favor to ship content that will reach the masses at scale. With a proven team and Luca running this, I have no doubt the nounish vibes will be unmatched. Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.
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(noun40 voting via agora proxy) the pudgy penguin team seems to be scrappy/hungry/genuine. there is a bit of weirdness and heart to their brand that I like that feels nounish to me. listening to the first 30 mins of this twitter spaces helped me get comfortable with the prop a lot (https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1MnGnpkXyyoxO) gold plated glasses I worried was a hint to the crypto lambo culture but seems more of the willy wonka imagination direction. luca seemed to have actual appreciation for nouns / noggles as well. Im excited to see what the team can deliver and would be even more supportive of weirder / crazier props by them in the future.
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Due to the cc0 nature of NounsDAO IP, Pudgy Penguins could move forward without the DAOs approval but we want this to be an official collaboration, bringing the Huddle into the Nouns ecosystem. If you want to engage--just engage.
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Sent from https://goops.com Nouns Governance Pool
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I have gone back and forth on this one. We have to vote on the proposals we have, not the ones we wish we had. I am biased to vote for imperfect proposals if I feel its net net +EV. But I dont think I can get there on this one. I think we do a lot better. - This reads to me like a redo of the launch Pudgy already did, but now with noggles. And the cost is super high: $299. Honestly I dont think there will be a lot of demand. - I find the gold plating kinda cringe and not Nounish, and the fact that that is specifically where our funds are going bums me out. Also not clear what the golden ticket does/means? - No revenue shared back--which I am possibly OK with, as I think we gain more from their reach in IRL goods than they do from our cobranding--but I think DAO stamp is valuable and we should be looking for some return. There is a vague promise to put a % of proceeds back to buying a Noun. Things I would be a lot more excited about - A co-sponsored Nouns x Pudgy Open Edition Drop. Have seen some really fun Nouns Pudgy art that we could use. Maybe ever N could be redeemable for a toy? - Lets just give toys away! Ask the DAO for a $100k and well do Pudgys with Noggles and give them away. Super grateful to the Pudgy team for their time and interest in working with us. I am a Pudgy holder myself! Hope we can do something great. *sent from voter.wtf*
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(•_•) ()() ∫\ \___( •_•) Are we proliferating yet? _∫∫ _∫∫ \ \
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I like the idea of positive sum collaborations throughout the ecosystem, but I have two issues with the way this prop is conducted: 1. (Minor issue) The funds are going to pay for a speculative element - gold plated penguins - in a way that is not very Nounish 2. (Major issue) The whole point of CC0 culture is that its permissionless. You dont need to ask for permission to collaborate! You just go ahead. There are lots of ways that this proposal could have received support from Nouns without spending money on gold plated penguins. For example, an NFT issued by the DAO that is mintable to represent the collaboration would be wonderful. Or a retroactive funding proposal, after the project has already launched. I love ecosystem collaborations, but asking for permission to use CC0 content does not feel very CC0, and asking for funds for gold plated penguins does not feel very Nounish. I dont want to stop this from happening, so I am abstaining rather than voting against, but I would encourage the DAO to seek more CC0 and Nounish collaborations in the future. Small tweaks to this proposal would be a significant improvement. CC0 culture requires permissionless remixing, and I encourage other future ecosystem collaboration proposals to look for more CC0-native models (such as mintable commemorative NFTs and retroactive funding proposals). *sent from voter.wtf*
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