Proposal 306 (Q5217)
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A Nouns proposal.
| Language | Label | Description | Also known as |
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| English | Proposal 306 |
A Nouns proposal. |
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The Nouns Town crew plans to attend the San Diego Comic Con in July 2023, where they aim to connect with creators and fans of pop culture. They will distribute 2,500 Nouns Acti vity Books and commission over 100 artworks from industry professionals. The goal is to introduce Nouns to a wider audience and engage creators in the Nouns ecosystem.
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Nouns town
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SNP - SD Comic Con: Connecting a Cornucopia of Creators
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reVoteWithReason from joelcares.eth > This is a fun way to get a significant amount of legit artists to contribute creatively to Nouns. It would be valuable to present all artists with an optional CC0 release for the commissions, and I would also hope that all pages will be scanned and archived online. On the whole Im excited to see all of the creative work! *sent from voter.wtf*
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This is a fun way to get a significant amount of legit artists to contribute creatively to Nouns. It would be valuable to present all artists with an optional CC0 release for the commissions, and I would also hope that all pages will be scanned and archived online. On the whole Im excited to see all of the creative work!
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Very unique and Nounish activation with incredible proliferation impact potential. Great team and concept. *sent from voter.wtf*
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My thesis as a delegate is: “Nouns has a unique role in the ecosystem as a gathering place around public goods.” Funding artists is clearly a public good! I love that this prop supports artists while also introducing new people to Nouns. Getting more artists involved in Nouns is something that I would love to see, and creating a positive perception of Nouns + crypto among adjacent communities (artists + comic fans) benefits the whole industry. This is especially true among groups that historically have viewed crypto negatively and should have an introduction to it in a positive light. The prop doesn’t specify whether the commissions themselves will also be CC0, and instead talks about the artists being introduced to CC0 work. 100 CC0 commissions would be nice as a base for the Nouns community to build on top of! But that decision is one that I trust the team with. *sent from voter.wtf*
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🔥 *sent from voter.wtf*
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this looks like a great experiment from a nounish team to increase creator attention
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reVoteWithReason from thenounishprof.eth > What an incredible opportunity to introduce Nouns to a whole new group of amazing artists and fans alike. Cant wait to see Nouns created in all these different artist styles. *sent from voter.wtf*
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People in the right place doing their thing. ⌐◨-◨ *Sent from my [iVote](https://voter.wtf)*
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excited about the potential network effects of tapping into the sdcc creative network *sent from voter.wtf*
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Unique opportunity by someone uniquely positioned to execute on it.
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Cool idea to get 100 artist commissions. Its proliferating both to potential builders (the artists), and to their fans. Also: reVoteWithReason from seneca.eth > Big proponent of empowering in the know folks like Adam & Joshua to do their best work on the ground. Make us proud! *sent from voter.wtf*
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supportive of trying to engage the comic book industry & fans further!
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FOR allowing people to experiment in their area of expertise, especially when its creative in nature, and even more so when it invites others to play along. *sent from voter.wtf*
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Big proponent of empowering in the know folks like Adam & Joshua to do their best work on the ground. Make us proud! *sent from voter.wtf*
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reVoteWithReason from krel.eth > Unique opportunity by someone uniquely positioned to execute on it. *sent from voter.wtf*
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nom nom creators Supporting artists directly and spreading the meme through the comics industry will have a great long term effect on proliferation ⌐◨-◨
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What an incredible opportunity to introduce Nouns to a whole new group of amazing artists and fans alike. Cant wait to see Nouns created in all these different artist styles.
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It is always nice to see nouners spending their time to onboard people and proliferate nouns. It’s like if Elon Musk will go and sell Tesla cars. It doesn’t matter that he have no diploma in sales he still would sell better than anyone else because of understanding the mission of EVs.
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reVoteWithReason from seneca.eth > Big proponent of empowering in the know folks like Adam & Joshua to do their best work on the ground. Make us proud! *sent from voter.wtf* *sent from voter.wtf*
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(noun40 voting via agora proxy contract)
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**FOR - 18 VOTES** **EltonPenguin** | *Great way to hit the creative community with the Nouns message* **AGAINST - 28 VOTES** **Bigshot Klim** | *We already have Nouns comics at the convention. The booth space was part of the prop so adding more How will this be distributed? Will there be an On The Ground team engaging with people and would those people really care about NFTs at a busy convention next to Optimus prime. I dont think that this is a good place to spend money until we get some data and collector feedback about the comic book performance.* **ABSTAINS - 4 VOTES**
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This week:-1. Participants emphasize the importance of voting with reason and considering anonymity.-2. The possibility of attending conventions like San Diego Comic-Con, New York Comic-Con, PopCon, and Heroes Con is discussed.-3. The need for gathering feedback and understanding different preferences is highlighted.-4. Communication with a project team is discussed, focusing on budget awareness and payment for work.-5. Reaching out to artists for an upcoming event and coordinating meeting times is mentioned.
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In the chat, participants discuss the importance of voting with reason and the possibility of attending various conventions to promote Nouns. They mention San Diego Comic-Con, New York Comic-Con, PopCon, and Heroes Con as potential venues. Some participants express concerns about voting against proposals from well-respected community members and the need for anonymity. The conversation also touches on the importance of gathering feedback and understanding what works for different people.
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This Month:-1. Participants emphasize the importance of voting with reason and considering anonymity.-2. The community discusses the possibility of attending conventions like San Diego Comic-Con, New York Comic-Con, PopCon, and Heroes Con.-3. The need for gathering feedback and understanding different preferences within the community is highlighted.-4. Communication with a project team is discussed, focusing on budget awareness and payment for work.-5. The community is actively reaching out to artists for an upcoming event and coordinating meeting times.-6. Bigshot Klim discusses the difficulty of the application process for pro badges at conventions.-7. Thepencil shares important deadlines for Professional Registration, including application and badge registration deadlines for 2023 and 2024 shows.-8. Defaultedu offers to source some badges for the community members interested in attending the conventions.-9. JoshuaFisher discusses the rights that commissions might get them, which could vary depending on the artists.-10. SQ X suggests creating a drop for the commissioned pieces as an add-on or cost reduction, and discusses the possibility of splitting proceeds or giving 100% to the artist.
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<@230061130591109120> hey are the folks working on the comics aware of the budget per issue and have all the invoices been paid out? I am hearing some things...-https://nouns.wtf/vote/116
All the work done has been paid for, including the interiors and some of the ad pages. Communication over the weekend took place, and they are passing much of the work onto another person to handle instead of themselves.
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Also agreed! It’s why we would always err on the side of caution in regards to the artwork that’s created. We assume there are no rights granted unless explicitly stated. At worst we get a Noun drawn in a different style to show the community. At best? Something more
It is important to err on the side of caution regarding artwork and assume no rights are granted unless explicitly stated. At worst, the community gets a Noun drawn in a different style, and at best, something more.
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isnt the draw me 1 pic of nouns the defined task though?
The defined task is not to draw just one picture of Nouns. The book should include how to draw a Noun and small options, not a gigantic image of 200 Nouns. The idea is to give artists some variability without overloading them with options.
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Let me start with - I love comics & I love Comic-Con but these are the questions I was considering when I cast my vote:--1) Do you already have a list of artist that are going to be there, do you plan to contact them ahead of time? It's rather ambitious to think 100 artists can be secured over a 3 day period at such a busy event (my personal opinion having been to a comic-con before) -2) The timeline is rather tight.... ideally it would be nice to have a 30 day marketing campaign planned ahead of the event where you could be posting and showing off the Noun Activity Books, connecting with attendees etc....if the prop passes you have exactly 34 days until the event - after time to produce the marketing materials it doesn't leave much time to promote ahead of the event-3) Are badges to the event already secured? Because from what I know the event is sold out .... and if badges are already secured that means you guys would already be going to the event so travel would already be accounted for - not sure why an additional $12,500 is needed. -4) Onboarding new artists is great, but we are unaware if they would be comfortable with their art being CC0 or not.... also are we expecting them to create the art in the Nouns activity books we are providing? Are we commissioning physical art pieces or digital art? If physical where are they going to go? Is there a collab with a gallery somewhere that will display them - or do they get shipped to a warehouse somewhere & stored (bit dramatic but hopefully you get my point) -5) Isn't there already going to be a booth presence there for the Nouns Comics? If so, why cant this onboarding effort be done in tandem vs needing additional funding for it upfront .... could have a prop created after when X amount of artists are secured for X amount of funding.... would hate to have to turn down a dope artist because they want $500 for a sketch - so more funding might be needed than original 30K
1) The plan is to start with the Artists alley at Comic-Con, where comic artists do commission pieces for money. There is a list of artists available online, and the goal is to secure around 100 artists during the event. Four people would be working on this, with individual books per artist.-2) The main goal is to onboard artists, not the average attendee, so there isn't a need for a marketing campaign ahead of the event. The onboarding process would be more organic by being there and talking to the artists.-3) Badges are secured for some team members, and others can be secured through Titan. If the proposal passes, additional team members would need to be flown out, accommodated, and compensated for their time. Badges and hotel rooms are not cheap during the event, but access to facilities is available through partners.-4) The plan is to commission physical pieces of art that would then be scanned. Artists would be asked if they are okay with their work being CC0. Many artists don't mind, as they are looking for a paycheck. For those who don't agree, their artwork would be shared without the CC0 label. The physical objects would be stored until a decision is made
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Not going to lie… I’m glad he tagged you shortly after <@819316859097579530> because I was wondering…. How am I the only one tagged when there are 14 other wallets who voted no as well 😳 ….. not going to lie, it would be much easier to vote from an anon wallet - it’s not an easy thing to vote against a prop from such a well respected community member …. But as you can see from my wall text response, I had a bunch of questions I was considering - wasn’t just being a no maxi …. I hope a version of this prop goes up for NYC Comic-con or another different future event
Josh and Adam appreciate the feedback from those who voted no on the proposal and are open to considering a version of the proposal for NYC Comic-con or another future event. They are also open to helping facilitate someone else to run with this idea for other conventions.
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Sorry for the quick stream of thought here:-“Many don’t care”?-Are you nuts?-Artists and artists rights is one of the biggest pieces of meta in a comics artist’s life—explaining CC0 to them in a venue like a con is ok—but collecting their work and expecting them to sign off and truly understand is bonkers.-Not sure the last time anyone has gone to AA at SDCC but the last few years I have been it has been a ghost town as many of the “best” artists are not there.-Is their a list of which “best” artists are being targeted? Many of the best artists are in different sections—wether it’s the Gaijin crew or naked fat girl party, etc. many of them “best”also have their commission lists filled months —now quick black and white head sketches from “best” may luck out at $300 but may seem pretty insulting to these bests. Any artist that is given a book is 90% likely to toss it out as they don’t like carrying anything other than what they are looking for. I brought up before not a fan of the ashcan idea—let’s get the comics out—lots of publishers(especially if you have a good relationship with them) will let you take books to your table. Ashcans feel cheap and have negative baggage with some from an era of get rich quick on speculation and ashcans were a part of that equation. With everything happening at SDCC and the competition for attention being noun 💊 is just not going to happen—that work will happen outside of the con and 1 on 1 conversions can be made much more efficiently and effectively targeting specific individuals and giving them the time and attention to invite to engage. Just my 2 cents. From the perspective of an artist. Most of those artists are on Facebook of all places and are typically happy to engage, I am always happy to facilitate any introductions that may be needed.
The goal of the proposal is to connect artists and Nouns, get them to create art, and organically have a conversation about Nouns, CC0, etc. The Nouns activity book would be given to artists to draw in (with a commission drawn in and paid for). If the artists grant their approval, the artwork would be scanned and placed online. If the artist does not wish for that to happen, their artwork can be shared without having the CC0 label applied to it. The physical objects would exist in storage until a decision is made on what to do with them. There are regular discussions regarding a central location for Nouns artwork, and the created art would likely go there once it has been decided upon.
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