Proposal 170 (Q3647)
From Nouns Dev
A Nouns proposal.
| Language | Label | Description | Also known as |
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| English | Proposal 170 |
A Nouns proposal. |
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13 November 2022
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Nouns Name Service Expansion ⌐◨-◨
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Would love to see more devs on the team. Happy to help where I can.
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I have followed Dom (@dotnouns) on his nounish journey since literally day one, when he came onto our Prop House Spaces to pitch his mvp for a Nouns naming service. Since winning that round (2 ETH), I have seen him work so hard to set up and roll out the .⌐◨-◨ network and identities that many of us love and use every day. He has also reached out to every corner of the nouniverse to make sure .⌐◨-◨ is natively resolved almost anywhere you want to interact, from nouns.wtf and Agora to basically any nounish auction site you can think of. He built all this foundation nearly for free, almost seven months of blood, sweat and tears for a couple ETH. Now he is asking the DAO to believe in the potential of the network and his plans for it, and I think it’s a worthwhile endeavor to give him some funding and runway to do so. Phase 2 is all about proliferation of the .nouns (NNS) network and I think the planned 3-pronged approach of 1) continuing to integrate more communities to resolve . ⌐◨-◨ natively, 2) running social media campaigns and the Nounish Club initiative to make nns names more desirable and 3) seeding/spinning up a DAO with Nouns builder to create a flywheel of community proliferation using Prop House and other methods to reward community members who help spread the .⌐◨-◨ meme, is a powerful strategy to get as many nounish people as possible using this network daily (and therefore proliferating nouns across web3.) Nouns will never have a token like $APE and I don’t think it ever needs one. But absent that, I think .⌐◨-◨ is a really cool and low-friction way to unite communities all over the nouniverse, and I’m looking forward to seeing what Dom and team can do with some ETH and a little runway. Also, if the team does NOT knock this out of the part with their efforts in the first 3 months, Benbodhi and I have the right and obligation as multisig signers / milestone checkers to send the second half of the funds back to the DAO instead of releasing them. I of course don’t expect this to be necessary, but it does nonetheless lessen the outlay risk in my opinion, if you trust our judgment. I was happy to support Dom by sponsoring this prop on chain after seeing all his work on NNS to date, and happy to vote yes here.
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Appreciate the way Dom has approached this: small Prop House round and over-delivered. Bootstrapped and didnt ask for money and over-delivered. Now coming with a big idea and a big vision. I think the questions about traction, market fit, and onboarding new communities are great questions and could be challenges for NNS. But I dont want to answer those now with a no since we dont know those answers. In the spirit of giving great builders a shot at pulling off big ideas and visions, Ugly says we want to give Dom and NNS the chance to pull it off. #Ugly
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The NNS is an amazing endeavour in identity and has been bootstrapped with very little so far. This is the kind of thing that has visual impact and appeal that I feel is very suitable for the nouniverse and beyond. Let’s see where this can go! .⌐◨-◨
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i appreciate the ambitious vision laid out in this well-structured proposal. if the team was able to get this far with 2 eth from a small prop house round, im excited to see where they can take this when fully funded.
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Nouncil is voting FOR this proposal after an internal poll saw 53 YES, 10 NO and 11 ABSTAIN votes. Some excerpts from Nouncil discussion: This is super exciting! very well written/thought out Al409 Yes - a wonderful way to proliferate. Interesting to gamify naming systems, too, by reserving 0-669 to Nouners. Almost synonymous with the value of early number ENS’s. -Brook As one of the very first projects to integrate the NNS initial code into a front end, FOODNOUNS loves NNS. The high level concept is a no brainer. We will all benefit from an exponential and creative growth of NNS. -Cheffo Love this initiative -Boanez I think nns is fun, i like seeing it in the auctions, but i feel like at the end of the day, its still just a gimmick. -Maty Join the Nouncil Discord for some of the best Proposal discussion happening in the ecosystem: https://discord.gg/s9aGsAzzM2
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I would like to see this broken up into smaller grants across the phases. The request is too large and the roadmap is too much hype at this scale.
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Interesting project that is helping foster community signalling/proliferation .noggles is top 5 eth domains usage (albeit 99.99% people are .eth but theres room for growth and more endings are coming online and being utilised to signal their community) + with the advent of .nouns (text) working in sync with the noggles to allow for easy typing. Not needing to paste the noggles icon is a decent ux advance I am in support of the project however for the tech involved this ask is too high. Would support 20-40 eth ask
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Though I am a big fan of the NNS in general and am proud to be part of the first extensions to resolve the .⌐◨-◨ on yolonouns.wtf, nounstown.wtf, and puppetsamurai.wtf I am not sure there is enough traction at this point to give it the hell yes from me. If this prop does not pass I hope DOM makes some revisions and brings this back on-chain with a bit more focus on adoption, both with users and resolvers. I also think we should have some retro reward for all of his efforts over the past 7 months.
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I like what has been done so far but its too big an ask too soon with too vague a roadmap for what is essentially a task of proliferation and im not quite clear on the deliverables. I think this needs to be broken up and I actually think it is good that this comes at the same time as Prop 171 - which I think could fund this and get a bit more product market fit, using their guidance and support, and see where we are at after that. I appreciate the communications you have done and I have read what was said in the Nouncil chat. A rejection of this proposal is not a rejection of the work done so far. Keep it up.
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what even is this?
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i support the NNS initiative and feel we should compensate for the work up until this point, but I would like to see a bigger focus on proliferation/marketing plans for NNS as opposed to integrations and updating website
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TLDR: not yet; I think this should be re-proposed with further feedback and iteration. Id love to fund further proliferation of NNS, and to retro reward the work done so far. However, the proposals budget allocation is too vague for me to assess if the funds will be well spent; for example, with the current greatest challenge being proliferation, its unclear how much will be spent on that; Id also love to have more granular details on what proliferation experiments will take place, since I have no past data to be confident on reputation alone. Finally a pet peeve of mine: all multisigs handling large amounts should have more than 3 signers, particularly when the signers dont have a strong security reputation.
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What I find a bit sketchy is that Im wary of the fact that theres no disclosure about who financially benefits from NNS succeeding. This prop is asking Nouns DAO to promote a specific NFT collection (the NNS NFTs). Those NFTs are sold for ETH and someone gets that ETH. It concerns me when props dont make that type of financial incentive clear and upfront and hide behind we proliferate nouns and seeming as a public good when they are not. In this way NNS is not a public good (free public infrastructure) like prop house or nouns builder and thus should be dealt with a bit more skepticism imo.
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I love Dom and what hes done with NNS, and strongly believe he deserves more than 2ETH in retro funding for his efforts over the last several months. However, I am against this prop as it stands currently because I do not believe it is the most effective way of proliferating the meme via namespace. Getting adoption of en ENS fork is going to be VERY difficult outside of noonish communities – especially given many wallets like Coinbase already have their own ens subdomain. Id be much more excited to see a version of NNS that is built on top of ENS, either through a subdomain or via the acquisition of a TLD from ENS – spreading the meme organically probably faster. In addition, we might see fragmentation for builders and users: there is currently one reverse resolution name per address, with this version of NNS theres two
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Nouns name service
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The Nouns Name Service (NNS) is a naming system built on the .⌐- domain, aiming to empower communities and spread the nounish culture. After receiving 2 ETH in funding seven mo nths ago, the NNS team has developed a functioning naming service and is now seeking additional funding to expand.
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