Proposal 285 (Q99)
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A Nouns proposal.
| Language | Label | Description | Also known as |
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| English | Proposal 285 |
A Nouns proposal. |
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🇧🇷 NFT.Brasil - Taking Over São Paulo and Celebrating the Brazilian Community
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6 May 2023
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agree w/noun40 & modrovsky
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This team is clearly doing great things in Brazil. I love seeing the São Paulo mayor with Noggle VR glasses. The Lounge is the most compelling thing to me here. Building community and having fun with real people in the space. Likewise, the Metaverse item could be interesting if people actually use it during the event. Im less interested in the general sponsorship package and the street gallery items.
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Weve funded a lot of IRL activations at conferences and NFT events, and Im not yet convinced weve seen evidence that its been a productive form of outreach and engagement with the broader Ethereum community. Im probably for pausing new instances of those types of experiences until we see evidence suggesting otherwise.
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ReVoteWithReason: I appreciate the proposers and their care for Nouns, but I feel we have funded a lot of things focused on IRL activations recently (262, 257, 251, 218, 206, 197) and I am still sort of waiting for the dust to settle/a clear assessment of our ROI there. In particular, I dont feel a need to fund more NFT event sponsorship/attendance/activation type stuff. Thanks again for your time and energy here!
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No need for more NFT conference activations right now.
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mostly against the 65k sponsorship which i dont think is great use of funds
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I would really love this group to propose something that isnt an NFT conference sponsorship! love the nouns BR community but not really the target of this prop.
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Respect the passion and dedication of the crew in Brazil, but not convinced NFT branded events are the best allocation of Nouns resources.
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Run of the mill NFTs conferences don’t seem all that interesting. Would encourage the team to find more nounish ways to meme the meme. Thank you for the submission!
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I appreciate the proposers and their care for Nouns, but I feel we have funded a lot of things focused on IRL activations recently (262, 257, 251, 218, 206, 197) and I am still sort of waiting for the dust to settle/a clear assessment of our ROI there. In particular, I dont feel a need to fund more NFT event sponsorship/attendance/activation type stuff. Thanks again for your time and energy here!
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I’m voting against this prop. This conference seems pretty generic as far as NFT/ tech conferences go and I question how much value Nouns will get out of a sponsored presence. That being said, communication from the conference and proposing team has been *inconsistent* at best. One of the biggest issues I noticed was 1/3 of the prop money ($30k) would go to a conference “sponsorship” and I still can’t figure out what we would get for that sponsorship. In the conference brochure there isn’t a $30k sponsorship package listed, although the team claims they were able to negotiate with “inner web3 circle” for a better deal. The sponsorship packages listed in the provided brochure are: $12k, $20k, $40k, $80k, and $200k. So what do we get for our $30k sponsorship exactly? One member of the team mentioned they negotiated the $80k package down to $30k, another member said we are getting the $200k package for $30k. I’m still left trying to figure out what we get for a $30k sponsorship and how can we verify this? I requested that the team provide an invoice or some documentation of this $30k sponsorship package and what comes with it, but as of this vote I have not received this. There are also inconsistent metrics cited for expected number of attendees. In the prop text, the proposing team claims 30,000 attendees are expected, but then in provided conference graphics the claim is 40,000 attendees are expected. I think there is enough inconsistency in statements from the team, provided graphics, and plans for spending our investment that we should not grant these funds.
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I am impressed by the Nouns/Gnars Brazil crew who consistently over deliver and create great media around their activities. This looks like a fun activation and an opportunity to do some education and advocacy IRL. Im voting FOR this team to over deliver a great experience in São Paulo, a city of 12M people and a memetic wave online and onchain.
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Brazil is just getting started.
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We like the work NounsBR does and think we can continue to have a large impact in this geography. Team has been thoughtful with their activation plan and linked a sale to their previous activation which has been requested by the DAO to demonstrate ROI.
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Extremely happy to see this proposal on-chain! We have a very strong Nouns community in Brazil. This proposal is an important step toward strengthening that. Not only will this event celebrate all that has been done here already, but it will introduce Nouns to a whole lot of people. I would argue this proposal is not just about sponsoring an event. The ripple effect that will come from these activations are far larger. The exposure that we will get from the street gallery and the event itself are invaluable. It is the kind of exposure we want to have here in Brazil, its the kind that will inspire innovative and nounish ideas. The ask is very fair given the great value. The builders involved have a proven track record and I know they will deliver beyond expectations. Hell yes.
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**FOR - 40 VOTES** **EltonPenguin** | *It works out to roughly $3/attendee. Not bad.* **CHEFFO ⌐◧-◧** | *⌐◨-◨🇧🇷⌐◨-◨* **AGAINST - 6 VOTES**
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Nftbrasil
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6 May 2023
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90,000
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This Month:-1. NounsBR team modifies Proposal 285 for the NFT.Brasil event, including lowering Metaverse Activation and scaling down the lounge to a booth, with plans for collaboration with Aubtoshi for merchandise.-2. vladhzc discusses the success of NFT art sales, defends their team's work, and addresses criticism from a detractor.
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This Month:-1. Users discuss the relevance of TurboDAO and other DAOs in relation to a proposal for NFT.Brasil.-2. Vladhzc mentions that 25% of Gnars community is from Brazil and will attend an event with other prominent DAO members.-3. NounsBR negotiates a sponsorship deal for a conference from $80k to $30k, with TM0B1L requesting verification and details.-4. NFT.Brazil plans metaverse activities, including an NFT exhibition in Spatial, treasure hunts, and livestreamed events.-5. Marketing plans include 40,000 spots of exposure through Eletromedia and a street gallery featuring Nouns alongside renowned artists.
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This week:-1. Vladhzc mentions 25% of Gnars community attending an event in Brazil, while Lituus raises concerns about associations and narratives.-2. Thesmith defends the event's importance and opportunities, despite concerns raised.-3. NounsBR negotiates a sponsorship deal for a conference from $80k to $30k, with TM0B1L requesting verification and details.-4. Thesmith confirms a formal declaration can be provided and that the deal includes all perks for participants.-5. NFT.Brazil plans metaverse activities, including an NFT exhibition in Spatial, treasure hunts, and livestreamed events.-6. Marketing plans include 40,000 spots of exposure through Eletromedia and a street gallery featuring Nouns alongside renowned artists.-7. Concerns about the budget are raised, and a cost breakdown of expenses is requested.
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This Week:-1. Users discuss the relevance of TurboDAO and other DAOs in relation to a proposal for NFT.Brasil.-2. Some users feel the conversation is off-topic and should be moved to a different channel.-3. The chat touches on the definition of a DAO and whether certain organizations qualify as one.-4. Vladhzc mentions that 25% of Gnars community is from Brazil and will attend an event with other prominent DAO members.-5. Concerns are raised about the associations and intentions of people involved in the proposal.-6. Vladhzc emphasizes the importance of events in building the community and believes Brazil can surprise Nouns once again.
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This Week:-1. NounsBR team modifies Proposal 285 for the NFT.Brasil event.-2. Key changes include lowering Metaverse Activation and scaling down the lounge to a booth.-3. Collaboration with Aubtoshi for merchandise is planned.-4. The team remains committed to delivering an exceptional event experience for the Nouns community.
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In the chat, users discuss the relevance of TurboDAO and other DAOs in relation to a proposal for NFT.Brasil. Some users feel that the conversation is veering off-topic and should be moved to a different channel. The chat also touches on the definition of a DAO and whether certain organizations qualify as one.
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The chat discusses a sponsorship deal for a conference, where NounsBR negotiated a package from $80k to $30k. TM0B1L asks for verification of the deal and what is included in the $30k sponsorship fee. Thesmith confirms that a formal declaration can be provided and that the deal includes all perks that other participants receive. The conference is held at a prestigious venue in Sao Paulo, and the Nouns Brazil community has a strong presence in the Brazilian Web3 circle. Thesmith also mentions that public goods are happening, with students from government public schools attending the event.
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Vladhzc mentions that 25% of Gnars community is from Brazil and will attend an event, along with other notable attendees like Aubtoshi. Lituus raises concerns about the associations between the event, DAOs, and potential narratives being pushed. Vladhzc insists that they have nothing to do with Turbo and that personal choices are unrelated to the proposal being developed. Thesmith accuses Lituus of distorting facts and testing reputations, while Lituus claims to be looking at facts. Vladhzc emphasizes the importance of the event and the opportunities it presents, despite the concerns raised.
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NFT.Brasil is planning a large-scale event in São Paulo, Brazil on June 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, 2023. The event aims to celebrate the NFT communi ty and will be held at the iconic Bienal venue.
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dealing with an event that expects 30k people requires _essentially_ specialized labor. i don't see why not demand the best material and personnel for a 3-day major event. I won't delve into the answer as it's clear that JP and other members kindly responded to other voters either by voice or text. Anyway, if other voters have concerns, let them voice right?
The event will be divided into two parts: an area dedicated to talks, with two stages, happy hour with shows, and an expectation of 1000 people per day; and another NFT exhibition area, with more than 500 works curated by Brazilian and international artists, immersive experiences, and augmented reality, expecting 10,000 people a day. Nouns will be activated on both sides, with a large lounge and meeting point for all Noun communities, as well as an exhibition area telling the history of the protocol and all its evolution so far. The official information is 30k people during the three days of the event. The $30k sponsorship fee is for quota B, which provides access to all the benefits of quota B, paying the amount of 30k instead of 80k as offered to other brands.
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Did we force them to shill shitcoins and associate it with Nouns?
No, there is no indication in the provided conversation that anyone forced them to shill shitcoins and associate it with Nouns.
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do you have marketing plans for the metaverse? or a specific point in time you’ll be driving ppl in? ways to measure engagement?--metaverse events usually have pretty low engagement and the focus of this activation seems to be physical/irl
There are marketing plans for the metaverse, including promoting the event schedule and activities within the Metaverse. The events will be in the Nouniverse Calendar and promoted via Gnars, internatioNouns, and NFTBrasil Twitter feeds. The metaverse will be launched on Monday, with treasure hunts and other activities happening inside, and a portion of the event will be livestreamed. Partnerships with over 30 communities, including nounsbr and gnars in Brazil, are being built to activate during and after the event, bringing meetings, masterclasses, and onboarding sessions to the metaverse. The metaverse is part of the engagement strategy, and the event is being promoted on socials, press releases, and official communications.
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Have you thought about collaborating with OTG and <@930317640487030854>? (Speaker)-Since she attends the IRL events, this could possibly help in reducing costs and double spending on merch etc.
There are plans to collaborate with OTG and the speaker mentioned. The speaker attends IRL events, which could help reduce costs and double spending on merch. However, it's noted that Aubtoshi has her own plans and won't be at the lounge all the time, so the separate merch allocation is for distribution to people who stop by and interact at the lounge.
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Hey! Thanks for asking:--> Sponsorship Package T - $ 30.000,00: What is the cost of the 25m² lounge? 1 Twitter Spaces?….how much? This would be a TNS space?--The cost of the lounge is included in the sponsorship package and there’s no option to separate it, as well the Twitter Spaces, which won’t be a TNS one but will be held on NFT.Brasil’s account.--> Metaverse Construction - $ 10.000,00 Imo this seems high and potentially wasteful at $10K. Also something that could be done cheaper via a mandated prophouse round.--It’s already being built as you can see in the proposal.--> Street Gallery - $ 25.000,00 $1250 p/d for the 20 day duration, imo seems like a great deal. Perhaps you could share more details on the schedules/duration etc?--20 days total. <@692916008876245043> <@327915740449472512> can you guys help me with the date?--> Lounge Construction - $ 12.000,00 $11,000 towards the lounge itself…..This seems a bit overpriced, will you be renting TVs/bean bags or buying them? I assume these things have already been quoted?--Things like TVs/bean bags will be rented. There will be a bit of construction as well. --> Merchandise - $5.000 This seems unnecessary as Aubtoshi will already be handing out $4K giveaways at the event, this would bring the total merch cost to $9.000 for a single event--Aubtoshi has her own plans and won’t be at the lounge all the time. Our merch will be distributed to the people that stop by and interact with us.--Let me know if you have more questions!
The cost of the 25m² lounge and Twitter Spaces is included in the $30,000 sponsorship package and cannot be separated. The Twitter Spaces will be held on NFT.Brasil's account, not a TNS one. The Metaverse construction cost is $10,000, and it is already being built. The Street Gallery will run for 20 days, but the exact dates are not provided. Lounge construction costs $12,000, with items like TVs and bean bags being rented. Merchandise costs $5,000, separate from Aubtoshi's $4,000 giveaways, and will be distributed to people who interact with the lounge.
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Hi, out of the 40 000 Electromedia advertisement spots, how many will be dedicated to Nouns PFPs? All of them during 20 days?
Yes, there are 40,000 spots of exposure in total. Nouns will be included in the street gallery, an open-air NFT exhibition in the cities of São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, and Belo Horizonte. Only NFT collections that entered with sponsorship will be featured in this initiative, and Nouns will have an important highlight in this event.
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if you were a Nouner or voter I would consider it, however, it is clear that you are testing established reputations in the community and distorting facts. I will focus on the proposal and abstract your attacks against the team. peace 🙏 next?
There is no clear answer to the question in the provided context. The conversation mainly revolves around concerns and discussions about the proposal, its attendees, and their affiliations.
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in terms of social media engagement , we could measure by the past NFT.Rio event : https://www.instagram.com/nft.rio/ once the medias were just created. --regards the public expectation, we have more than 10k confirmed presences already counting with the expo and going, our community mapping is very extense and again this is the biggest nft community gathering in brazil, I am not worried about attendency or numbers in general, thats the easy part for us, take a look on the nounish biggest views and the normal traffic of the venue itself
The NFT.Brasil event is being hosted by the same team that organized the NFT.Rio event. They have more than 10k confirmed presences already and are confident about attendance and numbers in general.
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it's 1/3 of the prop, doesn't line up with public cost on the site, so where can we verify the deal we're getting?
The deal for Nouns DAO is an exclusive custom package that includes benefits from a 200k package, with more than 50% off the 80k package. The NFT.Brasil team has negotiated this deal for Nouns, and they can provide a formal declaration or commercial agreement to verify the sponsorship package.
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let's stick to the numbers, it's more than 50%. A formal declaration isnt a problem.-my only Q is: to whom? Nouns DAO entity itself?
The Nouns DAO entity itself would be the recipient of the formal declaration.
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look for facts... do not create then, we have nothing to do with turbo and peoples personal choices has nothing to do with the proposal that is being developed
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Ok so the 30k is entirely to NFT.brasil? insane pricing, but got it!-The rest is nouns-as-a-service?--Metaverse....I get it's being built, that doesnt mean the cost is not high for an event.--Excisting merchandise could easily be distributed by more than one person, **the entire point of a DAO is to do things in collaboration.**--The other questions I dont believe you answered besides saying it cost this much--We need to understand what is being charged, else we can't value it, at the least a cost breakdown of some sort, which should be pretty standard practice in any of the other sponsors you mentioned, which that are companies.
A cost breakdown of the expenses for the NFT.Brasil event is provided in the proposal. The sponsorship package includes the cost of the lounge and Twitter Spaces, which will be held on NFT.Brasil's account. The metaverse construction is already being built, and the lounge construction will involve renting items like TVs and bean bags. Merchandise will be distributed to people who interact with the lounge, separate from Aubtoshi's giveaways. The event will have a series of activities within the metaverse, including NFT exhibitions, treasure hunts, and livestreams. Partnerships with over 30 communities are being built to activate during and after the event, and engagement will be promoted via Gnars, internatioNouns, and NFTBrasil's Twitter feeds.
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ok so what groups of people are accounted for in the 30k attendee claim in the text of the prop? and then what groups of people are accounted for in the 40k attendees referenced in the graphic below?
The official information is 30k people during the three days of the event. The event will be divided into two parts: an area dedicated to talks and another NFT exhibition area. The event expects 5k students from government public schools to attend the venue during its three days. The 40k attendees referenced in the graphic is incorrect, as the proposal was uploaded with the wrong version of the image. The correct expected attendance is 30k people.
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prop claims 30k attendees and then a graphic in the prop claims 40k attendees -- how many people are actually expected to attend?
The official information is that 30k people are expected to attend during the three days of the event. The event will be divided into two parts: an area dedicated to talks with an expectation of 1000 people per day, and an NFT exhibition area where they expect 10,000 people a day. Additionally, more than 5,000 public school students will attend the exhibition, with transportation and food covered by the municipality.
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**Question 2:** who is the dao? or what iis-*Answer:* The DAO (Decentralized Autonomous Organization) in the context of Nouns DAO refers to all Noun owners and is otherwise decentralized.-id: 874342122273255524
The DAO (Decentralized Autonomous Organization) in the context of Nouns DAO refers to all Noun owners and is otherwise decentralized.
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Relating to the proposal, could you help share some light and break down the spending?--Sponsorship Package T - $ 30.000,00:-What is the cost of the 25m² lounge?-1 Twitter Spaces?….how much? This would be a TNS space?--Metaverse Construction - $ 10.000,00-Imo this seems high and potentially wasteful at $10K. Also something that could be done cheaper via a mandated prophouse round.--Street Gallery - $ 25.000,00-$1250 p/d for the 20 day duration, imo seems like a great deal. -Perhaps you could share more details on the schedules/duration etc?--Lounge Construction - $ 12.000,00-$11,000 towards the lounge itself…..This seems a bit overpriced, will you be renting TVs/bean bags or buying them?-I assume these things have already been quoted?--Merchandise - $5.000-This seems unnecessary as Aubtoshi will already be handing out $4K giveaways at the event, this would bring the total merch cost to $9.000 for a single event.
The spending breakdown for the proposal is as follows:--1. Sponsorship Package T - $30,000: The cost of the 25m² lounge and Twitter Spaces are included in the sponsorship package and cannot be separated. The Twitter Spaces will be held on NFT.Brasil's account.--2. Metaverse Construction - $10,000: The metaverse is already being built as seen in the proposal.--3. Street Gallery - $25,000: The gallery will run for 20 days. The exact dates are to be confirmed by the organizers.--4. Lounge Construction - $12,000: TVs/bean bags will be rented, and there will be some construction involved.--5. Merchandise - $5,000: This merchandise will be distributed to people who stop by and interact at the event. Aubtoshi's giveaways are separate and will not be at the lounge all the time.--The metaverse events will have partnerships with over 30 communities, including nounsbr and gnars in Brazil, to activate during and after the event. There will be meetings, masterclasses, and onboarding sessions in the metaverse, as well as VR sets to explain the metaverse at the Nouns lounge. The event will
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remember to stay civil, respectful, and on-topic with discussions, anyone is free to ask questions and proposers are free to answer however they want. if they ignore or provide what you feel are unsatisfactory answers, going in circles is not productive. other voters can read the situation and vote accordingly or chime in with their thoughts
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So what you are saying is a sponsorship range was altered because it's nouns?
The sponsorship range was altered for Nouns because of the influence and negotiation by Nouns Brazil members. They were able to negotiate a custom exclusive package for Nouns, which includes benefits from the $200k package, for $30k.
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thanks for sharing the brochure. i see sponsorship packages for $12k, $20k, $40k, $80k, and $200k--are you saying Nouns is getting a $200k sponsorship package for $30k?
Nouns is getting a custom exclusive sponsorship package for $30k, which includes benefits from the $200k package. The exact quotes and deliverables are in the sponsor deck provided. The NFT.Brasil team has put together this custom package specifically for Nouns.
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Thanks! I’m trying to get a sense of the overall impact on these cities. Do you have a number of how many nounish billboards? Is it 10, 100, 1000? You mentioned 40000 billboards but that number seems very high to me (although it would be amazing). I love to see nouns in urban environments.
There are an astonishing 40,000 spots of exposure in partnership with Eletromidia, one of the largest out-of-home media companies in Brazil. NFT artworks, including Nouns, will be showcased in an open-air street gallery in São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Fortaleza, and Belo Horizonte. The exhibition will appear in subways, bus stops, airports, and elevators.
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this discussion is confusing, is this the governance environment around here?
This discussion is about a proposal and its attendees, which are better targeted by Gnars, NounsBR, and FoodNouns, DAOs that rely more on IRL events to proliferate. There have been concerns raised about the DAOs associated and the people mentioned in the proposal, as well as the possibility of these events being used to push other narratives. However, the conversation does not provide a clear answer to whether this is the governance environment around here.
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we do understand some of the concerns and some interpretations, we are proposing and doing a lot of stuff in the same proposal, and may be its the case to try again being more clear. but the question is: --25% of the gnars community is going to be there, the whole crew that generated more than 2M views in nounish media is going to be there, public goods beer will be distributed there, comics dao is going to be distributed there 4 the first time ,all the builders of the props from prophouses and subdaos are going to be there, aubtoshi is going to be there filming and recording. Are we going let this opportunity pass ? Are we going to transform this huuuuuuge gathering in a great: WHAT IF ? --yes there is a little trust involved in this proposal. as much as there are unpredictable nounish things to happen after that. Let BRAZIL surprise NOUNS once again.
There is no clear answer to the question about letting the opportunity pass or transforming the gathering into a WHAT IF. The conversation mainly focuses on concerns, clarifications, and discussions about the event and its relation to various DAOs and individuals.
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where is the $30k sponsorship info? this image says $80k
The official information is that there will be 30k people during the three days of the event. Due to the fact that the event is made by communities and Nouns is a growing force on the web3, they were able to negotiate with the event and have access to all the benefits of quota B, paying the amount of 30k and not 80k as offered to other brands. This is thanks to the Nouns Brazil members' influence and their good penetration in the Brazilian Web3 circle.
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which DAO?
The DAOs in the proposal are the ones being represented.
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hey Bix! sorry if it's not clear, let me explain. Last year, <@692916008876245043> and <@327915740449472512> first heard of Nouns in the event they were organizing, the NFT.Rio. Now they are making NFT.Brasil and are also part of NounsBR. <@821119012250845278> came later because of his relationship with Vlad. --of course they're not putting together this huge event alone, there are many other team members and decision makers making it happen, and two of them are in the proposal team: <@154016290267201536> and MarcosX.eth--the other names in the builders section are me, <@728014338526412812>, <@863773857492238397> (Debinvest) and <@761334672067264564>. We are active members not only in NounsBR but in the Nouns ecosystem itself. You can also spot Fabio Ema, the Metaverse architect.--The negotiation occurred between the NounsBR members and the NFT.Brasil staff. Since we have three people in the intersection, we got the opportunity to have this special package for Nouns. Does it make sense for you? Let me know if you have any more questions on this!
The negotiation for the special package for Nouns occurred between the NounsBR members and the NFT.Brasil staff. Since there are three people in the intersection of both groups, they got the opportunity to have this special package for Nouns.
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Is the proposing team. Also the team behind the event ?
Half of the team behind the event includes users 327915740449472512, 692916008876245043, 154016290267201536, and 821119012250845278. The other half, who will work and be paid for the proposal, are Nouns BR builders: jp.⌐◨-◨#8930, 863773857492238397, 728014338526412812, and 761334672067264564.
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