Proposal 183 (Q1939)
From Nouns Dev
A Nouns proposal.
| Language | Label | Description | Also known as |
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| English | Proposal 183 |
A Nouns proposal. |
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7 December 2022
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Prop House Mainnet
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Prop house
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I require the Nounders veto be removed before voting any ETH to Nounders. This was one of Wags major priorities in our DMs, he was laser focused on decentraliztion and concerned about this as a threat vector (along with many related issues, Wag was always gonna Wag). The Nounders veto is more problematic and centralizing now than it ever was before. If you feel the same, feel free to delegate your Nouns to me, as I will vote all proposals that involve the treasury paying Nounders down until the veto is removed (the exception being ETH to fund removing the veto), especially ones involving major amounts of ETH. Lets decentralize the governance as it should have been long ago.
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I do love prop house, but were spending ca 2.5 ETH on admin to every 1 ETH to builders. This does not seem like a great ratio. Also, I believe >16 ETH per team members way too high, specially considering all the feedback the community gives on how other contributors should be compensated. Prop House is important, and Id welcome the prop again after discussion.
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Prop House is great, but we kicked the value accrual can down the road during the 1000 ETH proposal discussion process. Not interested in kicking it again.
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not happy with current value accrual to nounsdao. Other DAOs are happy customers of prop house without bankrolling the operation.
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Need some time to actually discuss this please. This is a $700k cost with much better ways to fund this. What if prop house instead raises funding, it could be a great product in the space as more than nouns just uses it Our dao should own a good chunk for incubating it, and then we could put this 700k into a seed round Would love to find a way to make this more sustainable and not have to spend so much every year
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This is a solid team of high level devs working hard to make a great tool that can be used by others communities. Easy yes from me.
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Prop House is important to creating an ecosystem where DAOs can flourish within the Nounish ecosystem. I would just ask that the engineers/team members maintain communication about their commitments as 500ETH over 6 months is a substantial ask.
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We like the Prop House in this house.
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Empowering creatives within nouns using infrastructure that simultaneously builds the reputation of nouns as *the* DAO for builders... thats extremely Ugly⌐◨-◨
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This is an actual no brainer. Love this tool. Key piece of DAO infrastructure that is critical for scaling and activating new ideas, builders and communities. The value added to Nouns (and other DAOs) will be greater than the cost and in that sense i think it is already sustainable. Great example set with the abstained vote too.
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Girl, I see you, in them Apple Bottom jeans Chinchilla on your back, I wanna know your name Girl, Im Twista, I could blow your brains Put you in a chameleon 04 Range Still sexy when you smoke that flame Jerk it like a chicken when you throw that thang She got me hotter than a oven, the way that she talk Switchin to freaky, so Im lovin the way that she walk You lookin good, girl, you oughta be in pictures Listen to me, I see your career goin sky high Takin you home to the crib in the Chi And every time I see your thighs, I cry when I drive by Watchin you should be a thrill, got the fellas on some Johnny Gill Steady screamin, My, my, my, my! Walk on the carpet, with the diamonds that flick in the dark Kickin it on the couch at 106 & Park I can see your beauty on the big screen I can see me freakin you with whip cream I can see you on stage at the awards With a dress better than Jennifers and doin big things Kick it with me, I can mold your life You lookin good, girl, show you right Dre told me you the prototype I can make you a celebrity overnight
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Prop House is the mitochondria of the DAO.
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Nouns only succeeds if Prop House succeeds
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The State of the Prop House call was very helpful for gaining insight into the future of Prop House and where the team is taking it. It would be a good practice for us to have more open calls like this at the DAO.
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Ive had the pleasure of working with prophouse since the very first nounpunk community round. Im very excited with how the platform continues to grow and develop. Very easy yes from me
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hell yes. Love prop house
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yes, but prop house needs to become a dao. it solves for the fundraising issue, allows prop house to onboard more contributors to advance protocol development, allows prop house to capture value from its proliferation of the nouns meme through auctions. ideally we see this launch as a nounish dao of which nouns can be a part owner.
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Prop House the power house. Amazing piece of infrastructure that I support continued work on. ⌐◨-◨
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nom nom Prop House
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One of the most exciting things to come out of Nouns. Easy Yes.
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enthusiastically FOR! keep up the good work PH team. ⌐◨-◨
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**Nouncil Vote:** 49 Yes, 1 No, 0 Abstain 3 Nouncillors abstained from the decision **YES WINS** --- **Vote Reasons & Discussion** --- **samellis ⌐◨-◨** | *more prop house please* **Benbodhi** | *Prop House is a powerful tool and I support the continuation of it.* **andreitr** | *hell yes* **JoelCares** | *Prop House is significantly useful Nounish architecture. Easy yes here. Let these smart people continue to build!* **Graphic.⌐◨-◨** | *No brainer yes, prop house has been working great and will keep doing so long as it keeps getting funded and ran by the people currently in charge* **RyanMac ⌐◨-◨** | *Excited to start the Tiny Dinos 1st prophouse round in the coming weeks. Huge fan of the protocal* **BitcoinBob ⌐◨-◨** | *yes* **Mindtoasted** | *Tight team, proven impact, I vote yes.* --- For more Nouns DAO proposal discussion head to the Nouncil Discord: https://discord.gg/nouncil
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Prop House is an increasingly integral part of the Nouns ecosystem, and is finding its way as a general piece of infrastructure for communities outside of Nouns. Prop House is synonymous with Nouns and is proving itself to be an effective forum for the DAO to spend capital on wide ranging efforts. We want to see continued development of it and for that reason we are voting a yes. Our strong opinion is that Prop House and its protocol should be operated from its own Nounish DAO. This would move Prop House outside of a proposal based funding model into its own sustainable funding mechanism, it would also have the added benefit of creating a direct ownership link to Nouns. This would also mean that Prop House could utilize Prop House. The Prop House meme is already proliferating through many communities, it only makes sense to use a meme machine to accelerate this trend.
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Prop House is one of the greatest protocol extensions added by nouns. We must keep that innovation funded and going. All Hail Prop House!
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Prop House is a core infrastructure for the Nouns ecosystem, onboarding impactful builders and spreading the Nouns meme. They are requesting 570 ETH to fund development for the next six months (Jan 23 - Jun 23).
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7 December 2022
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<@372465201808670721> any idea when the next mandated prop house was going to start?
The next mandated prop house is expected to start soon, with more information coming tomorrow. They were waiting on some media assets from the great messhup to kick things off the right way.
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<@372465201808670721> talking to <@230061130591109120> about working with the community to make creative choices. Does or could Prop House make sense for things like this? For instance <@230061130591109120> would upload a variety of choices and allow Nouns/Nouns Extensions to vote on the direction they prefer.
Yes, Prop House could make sense for things like working with the community to make creative choices. In the given context, the user suggests that someone could upload a variety of choices and allow Nouns/Nouns Extensions to vote on the direction they prefer.
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And here is our current plan at Nouns News that we would like to ask everyone here for help!--We are trying an experiment with Nouns News' socials.-We would like to get a brief selfie video from each one of you who won a prop house round.--The idea is to try and show the outside world that they can pitch their ideas and get funded.--Be it for a beach clean up, a charity, an art and/or fun project.--If you are not comfortable being in front of the camera, please send us some photos/videos.-Stuff that we can use to tell the story ourselves.--We are looking forward to learning more about your journey so far.-How has Nouns and prop house changed your life?--And if you are part of the latest round, you can tell us about your future plans.--Hopefully we will inspire more people to join the movement and give it a try.--Thank you for you attention.--Here are some examples. We are aiming for Tik Tok for now, vertical videos are preferred.-But no need to get fancy. Just record and send it to us.
Nouns News is asking for brief selfie videos from prop house round winners to showcase their projects and inspire others to pitch their ideas and get funded. If you're not comfortable being on camera, you can send photos or videos for Nouns News to tell the story. The goal is to show the impact of Nouns and prop house on people's lives and inspire more people to join the movement.
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Are Prop House votes public at all? My understanding is no since it’s a signed message not a transaction. Any plans to make it public?
Yes, Prop House votes are not public at the moment since they are signed messages and not transactions. However, there are plans to launch a revamped UX/UI in the coming weeks, which will provide more context for both voters and builders.
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are there some other daos that have similar relationships that would use this?
Some other DAOs that have similar relationships and would use this are GOOP and Lil Nouns. Additionally, any DAO that collects other DAOs' NFTs and wants to participate in governance could also use it.
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btw, where is the best place to share updates and ask for feedback? Should I do it here?
The best place to share updates and ask for feedback is in the prop-house channel. It is also recommended to open a Twitter account and share updates there to build up reputation.
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But both are open to proposals, how?
Both Prop House and Nouns DAO are open to proposals. Prop House serves for more than just funding ideas. The current rounds are:--1. Delegate race, where the reward is a delegated noun instead of ETH (so you get access to gated channels and nouns governance).-2. Crowdsourcing ideas - here, people share ideas of what they would like to see more of in Nouns (there is no reward for proposers). The most voted idea(s) will then be used as a prompt for the next Prop House round with ETH rewards.
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Does this count for small projects grant recipients from last year ? 🙂
Yes, the question was answered. Small projects grant recipients from last year are not currently included in the 1 soul bound sticker per community claim, but they may be added down the line.
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do only noun holders vote
Yes, only Noun holders can vote, but it depends on the specific House. In the case of Lil Nouns rounds, only Lil Nouns NFT holders can vote. The UI will be updated to make it clearer which NFT is needed to participate in each round's voting period.
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dumb question as someone who's never proposed for prop house before: is the eth sent to the address that proposed? 😂
Yes, the ETH is sent to the address that proposed.
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GM Fam! For prop house proposals, where can we submit a proposal idea to be looked over/get feedback about prior to official submission?
You can submit a proposal idea for feedback prior to official submission on the Nouns DAO Discourse at https://discourse.nouns.wtf/. After receiving feedback, you can post a link to your proposal in the #prop-house channel on Discord.
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gm. I’ll be submitting a CC0 repository for Mandated Round. Is backend and FE too ambitious for this?
JoshuaFisher#0001 asked if submitting a CC0 repository for Mandated Round with both backend and frontend is too ambitious. There is no direct answer to this question in the provided context.
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Gm nouns,--I have a goal, I'm going to unify a Skate park in the central region of Rio de Janeiro, can I count on your attention? https://prop.house/proposal/837--Thanks!
Yes, you can count on their attention. Thebeautyandthepunk#8285 mentioned having a meeting with Ramon to discuss the proposal and help with the writing.
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guys, this is the first round I'm participating. Is it normal that only 2 props got votes? People tend to vote in the last day or what? 🤔
Yes, it's normal for the first days to be very slow. Usually, the last day is when everything happens. Most votes tend to come in the last 15 minutes.
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Have you seen nouns archive by <@420908638979358723> ? 🤯
Yes, maty#0984 is referring to the Nouns Archive created by user 420908638979358723. JoshuaFisher#0001 confirmed that they have seen it and love it.
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Hey <@708131862731554917> <@372465201808670721>! Any chance we can join Shark Tank today to pitch Adjectives? https://prop.house/proposal/1173
Sorry ser I think the docket is full for this show, but if you would like to come on and in the unlikely event we get ahead of schedule we can bring you up.
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Hi frens --My good friend <@810199605626667009> and I teamed up to create the Noun Peepos, 9999 cc0 peepos on ETH ❤️ --We'd love to know more about prop house! What is the typical process for collections to be included?--Thanks 🙂 here are some Noun Peepos
The typical process for collections to be included in Prop House is to prepare a proposal. You can inquire about Prop House in the prop-house channel and for Nouncil-related matters, you can use the nouncil channel. To get started with preparing a proposal, you can refer to this Notion document: https://tender-loganberry-eae.notion.site/Nouner-Mandated-Rounds-19f0e0e9a7044fdbb7ac754e2850e730.
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Hi friends! Anyone know when the weekly prop house discord meeting takes place? What day/time?
The weekly Prop House Discord meeting does not exist. However, there is a weekly Ask Us Anything / Nouns Community call every Tuesday at 2pm, and a weekly Prop House Twitter Spaces usually on Mondays at 2pm EST on Twitter (next week will be at 2pm on Tuesday because of Labor Day).
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Hii <@372465201808670721> I want to ask, Why can't the image that I uploaded from Google Drive be read on the prop house?
The image you uploaded from Google Drive can't be read on the prop house because you need to generate a link to the image and insert it via the Insert image widget. Copy-pasting the image won't work.
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How do you get the prop builder role? Mine is prop #961 for CrypToadz
To get the prop builder role, you need to be one of the ones working on a proposal that has been submitted on-chain.
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I got a proposal ready soon, but a quick question, where can I submit it yeah? thankyouu
You can submit your proposal on prop.house when there is another round. The last round just ended yesterday.
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Is a Nouns University really been built??
A Nouns University has not been officially built yet, but RobotFishGirl#2795 is working on it despite the proposal not being passed. They are developing it further to have more to show when they try again. You can find more information on their Twitter page: https://twitter.com/NounsUniversity
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Is the proposal only for the Nouns community? Or theoretically if the product is built in a scalable way other communities could leverage it too?
Yes, the proposal is primarily for the Nouns community, but ideally, the result should be adaptable to other communities as well.
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is there a place to read on how noun governance works? is it mainly <https://nouns.wtf/vote>. feels a bit hard to know the process when i've never vote / own a noun before
You can read about Noun governance at https://nouns.center/funding/proposals. This website provides information on the process and how to participate in voting and proposals.
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Is this going to be submitted to mandate?
Yes, the proposal is going to be submitted to mandate.
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Is this the best place to inquire for prop house? Or nouncil?
The best place to inquire for prop house is indeed the prop-house channel. For nouncil-related inquiries, you should go to the nouncil channel. To prepare a proposal, you can follow the guidelines and steps provided in the Nouner Mandated Rounds document: https://tender-loganberry-eae.notion.site/Nouner-Mandated-Rounds-19f0e0e9a7044fdbb7ac754e2850e730
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Just confirming you would like to come on Prophouse weekly tomorrow at 2pm est? Shark tank episode for governance round
Yes, lsankar#8509 confirmed that they would like to come on Prophouse weekly tomorrow at 2pm EST for the Shark Tank episode for governance round.
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nice, ya this was the thought! how do you feel abt form factor (twitter vs. discourse vs. ???)? like, where is a good place for anon, verified feedback on a proposal to happen?
seneca#8660: p cool stuff! we funded an anon team to build something similar. there's def room to experiment here. id be interested in seeing this sort of thing for on-chain proposals - nouners sharing anonymously but verified opinions would allow for more (?) honest feedback + allow builders to get a real temp check for what they did right/wrong. personally, i think a very focused MVP (on-chain proposals) with a simple and straightforward UI is something id play with.--Based on the context, a good place for anon, verified feedback on a proposal could be an on-chain proposal platform with a simple and straightforward UI. This would allow for more honest feedback and help builders understand what they did right or wrong.
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Oh awesome, thank you Sam, likewise! The Noun Pepes developer <@106965402713665536> and I were hoping to prepare a proposal.. would you happen to know the place to look on first best steps?
Yes, for preparing a proposal, you can look at Prop House (https://prop.house/nouns) and the Nouncil channel (#943943469821476944) as suggested by samellis ⌐◨-◨#4764.
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Okay, I see and then Do you know how to delete a written proposal?
seneca#8660: share the id and ill delete it for you-pemburux#1623: Please delete #1422
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plan on linking back to nouns on federation.wtf and want to show off the communities support / logo--what tag line is better? or any suggestions?--`supported by nouns`-`made possible by nouns`-`backed by nouns`--idk copy is hard
If you just want to show off community support, then I think you should go with Supported by Nouns, but if it was funded, then maybe Powered by Nouns.
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Random question: can you edit/update a prop house proposal after you submit it?
Yes, you can edit/update a prop house proposal after you submit it. However, cdt#3727 mentioned that it is not possible at the moment.
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Regarding the current nouns mandates round: is there a focus on prop.house governance, nouns proposals or something else?
The question regarding the current nouns mandates round and its focus was answered by seneca#8660, who said that the focus is on anything that attempts to improve nouns governance in a meaningful way.
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So if we can get Nouns U moving, you want to take part in some way?
Yes, Psychdre#7731 would love to help out with Nouns U in Spanish.
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the most? maybe simply just the tags. helpful to filter by type. --and the `Updates & Deliverables` section, when fleshed out, would be really useful. <@357667384342872074> has a notion doc tracking said updates & progress for props
There is a Notion document tracking updates and progress for proposals. The `Updates & Deliverables` section, when fleshed out, would be really useful for filtering by type.
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Very cool, will the final feature the whole noggles with some rim around them (so the temple piece doesnt break) or just single eye ?
H O N K D I D D L Y#2881: Single eye is just experimentation, right now-H O N K D I D D L Y#2881: The soaps will be full on noggles--The final product will feature the whole noggles, not just a single eye.
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What are some specific nouns that the community would like to see made into collectible plushies?!
Some specific nouns that the community would like to see made into collectible plushies include the wiz, retainer, factory, black hole, and boot.
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what should the channel name be? nouns.sh, nounish-terminal,..?
The channel name should be nouns.sh, as suggested by w1nt3r#9999.
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What's the process for suggesting a new prop house with Nouns funds? Is the best path doing discourse post -> on-chain proposal?
The process for suggesting a new prop house with Nouns funds is to create a discourse post and then submit an on-chain proposal.
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When it says folks who are part of nouns ecosystem can vote is that solely nouns holders or does it include folks w lilnouns etc ?
Only Nouns holders can vote in the launchpad house.
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