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Vote Reason: my reasoning stands closely with what bower and noun40 stated. | |||||||
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Vote Reason: Theres a lot of potential here. The MK ecosystem is a compelling niche, and if you deliver excellence this could reach an interesting audience. In order for me to support this proposal I would like to see you: - choose a designer and let them express their vision as part of this proposal. The creative direction makes or breaks this. I dont want to see Noggles slapped on a keyboard - I want to see innovation, a high quality keyboard that authentically captures the attention of everyone interested in MK. - consider further integration with and support of VIA. Open source public infrastructure is very Nounish. For instance, allocating a portion of the revenue to them would be interesting. - just start MK DAO. Zoras tools have made this very easy and I would like to see a community form that isnt dependent on a proposal getting passed in Nouns DAO. - clearly explain what happens to the revenue generated. | |||||||
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Vote Reason: proposal says it’d fund 1-2k keyboards but then cites 260 in the cost breakdown. it’s a sweet initiative but just feels too expensive | |||||||
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Vote Reason: Aligned with Noun40 here. | |||||||
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Vote Reason: Excerpt from my newsletter (https://t.co/BFd43TBghs) : I really appreciate this proposal, it is very detailed, has tons of information and even someone who isnt particularly familiar with the subject can make an informed decision. The visual concepts also looked great and got me excited for an eventual finished project. That being said, there are a few key issues with this proposal that pushed me to vote against. Firstly, the team is proposing for the DAO to pay for all the manufacturing costs and the teams compensation. On top of that, they are receiving all the proceeds from the NFT sales. Seems we are double spending here. This needs to be further clarified. Also, it wouldve been great to see a % of the sales being returned back to the treasury. Secondly, I would have liked to see more on proliferation. The keyboards themselves will most likely be sold to people already in the ecosystem. So there needs to be some work done outside of the sales of the keyboards. This possibly comes in how exactly the subDAO will operate and how It can push nounish ideas forward. In general I believe more things should be explored on this front. This is definitely an interesting concept, I would be open to a revised version of this prop. | |||||||
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Vote Reason: i like the idea of this proposal but concerned around the costs/DAO ROI and demand for this # of nounish keyboards @ the high end designer price point, also unsure about the DAO aspect | |||||||
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Vote Reason: I like the energy but the prop feels like its trying to do too much / asking for too much with very little proof points from my perspective. Im not convinced MK fans looking to spend ~$500 on a custom keyboard really wants noggles painted over them unless they are already a nouns fan? Im also not convinced that MK fans are looking to join a DAO? Id support a prop that doesnt yet worry about a DAO, create the smallest possible batch (even if per unit economics is worse), and prove out that theres demand here. Also for physical products like this Id prefer for the economic relationship here to be more clear. Will the units be sold at cost? Sold at a profit and be taken by the proposers to compensate for the work involved? Im not saying something has to come back to the dao, Id just prefer the situation to be spelled out more clearly. | |||||||
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Vote Reason: I think I would buy a mechanical keyboard from mechanical keyboard dao But I find it distasteful when proposers say hey pay for the costs for us to make mechanical keyboards and well then give nouns holders the rights to pay cost for mechanical keyboards Kinda like double dipping into our treasury then our wallets directly Would prefer if this was like nouns holders get a free one or smth nice like that | |||||||
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Vote Reason: expensive + mockups dont look enticing | |||||||
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Vote Reason: I dont see the market for these being big enough to justify the funding. Would reconsider if a pilot program funded entirely by the team showed demonstrable success and demand across a broad enough audience. | |||||||
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Vote Reason: I like these and would like to see some version of this prop in the future.. But, I think the current ask is high, and would have liked to see some % allocated to the dao. I also agree with a lot of the other feedback provided by voters and Noun 40. | |||||||
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Vote Reason: Thoughtful proposal that helps solve real problems within a thriving subculture, while offering a high leverage way of proliferating Nouns to an aligned community. Check out the related subreddits by keywords and users - https://subredditstats.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards - not to mention the similarities between MK and NFT collectors. Both communities gather around luxury goods, pay a premium to collect the best, and loudly support the creators that make their subcultures so vibrant. These arent gaming laptops. They are carefully curated works of art thoughtfully pieced together and handled with care (notice the care instructions and white gloves used by enthusiasts?). | |||||||
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Vote Reason: As a mechanical keyboard enthusiast, I would be interested in acquiring one of these. The mechanical keyboard community is vast, with over 1.2 million people in the largest subreddit. The community encompasses a diverse range of interests, including developers, writers, gamers, and productivity enthusiasts. These individuals might stumble upon Nouns and delve further into it. Consequently, I believe this keyboard could serve as an effective means of proliferation. | |||||||
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Vote Reason: This is a mechanical keyboard I would buy. I’m not an avid mk user, but a nouns keyboard would get me to use one for sure. Another quirky item that would get attention. | |||||||
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Vote Reason: Mechanical keyboards are one of those wonderful niches that can quickly draw you in, going from knowing very little (My MacBook keyboard works just fine) to becoming deeply knowledgeable about the intricacies of different switches and layouts (Do I need to add an ergo split with some boba switches to my collection? No, Ill just keep using my latest keyboard with lubed Halo Trues, it feels too good to put away). This is why introducing Nouns to the passionate community of mk enthusiasts who fully embrace builder culture feels like a great match. Allocating funds to support the design and manufacturing of keyboards (which involves significant costs) as well as kickstarting a MK DAO is a meaningful use of the Nouns treasury. | |||||||
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Vote Reason: i really like this prop but in many ways agree with 40. would like to see the proposers derisk the prop where possible. the team appears competent but the long manufacturing cycle time is concerning to me | |||||||
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Vote Reason: Poll failed to meet vote threshold. **FOR - 17 VOTES** **Sasquatch** | *click clack* **AGAINST - 26 VOTES** **byhardy** | *Too expensive for proliferation return. Cool idea though.* **Akva** | *The math doesnt check out for the DAO* **Classic_Craig** | *keyboard not cool tho* | |||||||
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Revision as of 15:47, 1 July 2023
A Nouns proposal.
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A Nouns proposal. |
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The Nouns Mechanical Keyboard
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my reasoning stands closely with what bower and noun40 stated.
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Theres a lot of potential here. The MK ecosystem is a compelling niche, and if you deliver excellence this could reach an interesting audience. In order for me to support this proposal I would like to see you: - choose a designer and let them express their vision as part of this proposal. The creative direction makes or breaks this. I dont want to see Noggles slapped on a keyboard - I want to see innovation, a high quality keyboard that authentically captures the attention of everyone interested in MK. - consider further integration with and support of VIA. Open source public infrastructure is very Nounish. For instance, allocating a portion of the revenue to them would be interesting. - just start MK DAO. Zoras tools have made this very easy and I would like to see a community form that isnt dependent on a proposal getting passed in Nouns DAO. - clearly explain what happens to the revenue generated.
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proposal says it’d fund 1-2k keyboards but then cites 260 in the cost breakdown. it’s a sweet initiative but just feels too expensive
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Aligned with Noun40 here.
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Excerpt from my newsletter (https://t.co/BFd43TBghs) : I really appreciate this proposal, it is very detailed, has tons of information and even someone who isnt particularly familiar with the subject can make an informed decision. The visual concepts also looked great and got me excited for an eventual finished project. That being said, there are a few key issues with this proposal that pushed me to vote against. Firstly, the team is proposing for the DAO to pay for all the manufacturing costs and the teams compensation. On top of that, they are receiving all the proceeds from the NFT sales. Seems we are double spending here. This needs to be further clarified. Also, it wouldve been great to see a % of the sales being returned back to the treasury. Secondly, I would have liked to see more on proliferation. The keyboards themselves will most likely be sold to people already in the ecosystem. So there needs to be some work done outside of the sales of the keyboards. This possibly comes in how exactly the subDAO will operate and how It can push nounish ideas forward. In general I believe more things should be explored on this front. This is definitely an interesting concept, I would be open to a revised version of this prop.
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i like the idea of this proposal but concerned around the costs/DAO ROI and demand for this # of nounish keyboards @ the high end designer price point, also unsure about the DAO aspect
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I like the energy but the prop feels like its trying to do too much / asking for too much with very little proof points from my perspective. Im not convinced MK fans looking to spend ~$500 on a custom keyboard really wants noggles painted over them unless they are already a nouns fan? Im also not convinced that MK fans are looking to join a DAO? Id support a prop that doesnt yet worry about a DAO, create the smallest possible batch (even if per unit economics is worse), and prove out that theres demand here. Also for physical products like this Id prefer for the economic relationship here to be more clear. Will the units be sold at cost? Sold at a profit and be taken by the proposers to compensate for the work involved? Im not saying something has to come back to the dao, Id just prefer the situation to be spelled out more clearly.
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I think I would buy a mechanical keyboard from mechanical keyboard dao But I find it distasteful when proposers say hey pay for the costs for us to make mechanical keyboards and well then give nouns holders the rights to pay cost for mechanical keyboards Kinda like double dipping into our treasury then our wallets directly Would prefer if this was like nouns holders get a free one or smth nice like that
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expensive + mockups dont look enticing
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I dont see the market for these being big enough to justify the funding. Would reconsider if a pilot program funded entirely by the team showed demonstrable success and demand across a broad enough audience.
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I like these and would like to see some version of this prop in the future.. But, I think the current ask is high, and would have liked to see some % allocated to the dao. I also agree with a lot of the other feedback provided by voters and Noun 40.
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Thoughtful proposal that helps solve real problems within a thriving subculture, while offering a high leverage way of proliferating Nouns to an aligned community. Check out the related subreddits by keywords and users - https://subredditstats.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards - not to mention the similarities between MK and NFT collectors. Both communities gather around luxury goods, pay a premium to collect the best, and loudly support the creators that make their subcultures so vibrant. These arent gaming laptops. They are carefully curated works of art thoughtfully pieced together and handled with care (notice the care instructions and white gloves used by enthusiasts?).
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As a mechanical keyboard enthusiast, I would be interested in acquiring one of these. The mechanical keyboard community is vast, with over 1.2 million people in the largest subreddit. The community encompasses a diverse range of interests, including developers, writers, gamers, and productivity enthusiasts. These individuals might stumble upon Nouns and delve further into it. Consequently, I believe this keyboard could serve as an effective means of proliferation.
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This is a mechanical keyboard I would buy. I’m not an avid mk user, but a nouns keyboard would get me to use one for sure. Another quirky item that would get attention.
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Mechanical keyboards are one of those wonderful niches that can quickly draw you in, going from knowing very little (My MacBook keyboard works just fine) to becoming deeply knowledgeable about the intricacies of different switches and layouts (Do I need to add an ergo split with some boba switches to my collection? No, Ill just keep using my latest keyboard with lubed Halo Trues, it feels too good to put away). This is why introducing Nouns to the passionate community of mk enthusiasts who fully embrace builder culture feels like a great match. Allocating funds to support the design and manufacturing of keyboards (which involves significant costs) as well as kickstarting a MK DAO is a meaningful use of the Nouns treasury.
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Nextmech and profish
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The Nouns Mechanical Keyboard project aims to create a custom mechanical keyboard (MK) in collaboration with top-tier keyboard designers. The project will utilize NFTs, DAOs, and open-sourc e software to bridge the MK and web3 communities.
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10 April 2023
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i really like this prop but in many ways agree with 40. would like to see the proposers derisk the prop where possible. the team appears competent but the long manufacturing cycle time is concerning to me
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Poll failed to meet vote threshold. **FOR - 17 VOTES** **Sasquatch** | *click clack* **AGAINST - 26 VOTES** **byhardy** | *Too expensive for proliferation return. Cool idea though.* **Akva** | *The math doesnt check out for the DAO* **Classic_Craig** | *keyboard not cool tho*
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