Proposal 298 (Q1893)
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A Nouns proposal.
| Language | Label | Description | Also known as |
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| English | Proposal 298 |
A Nouns proposal. |
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Introducing Noun Computers - An Ethereum Node Prototype
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25 May 2023
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Competitive industry, no edge, no track record in it, hardware is hard.
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$250k to design and manufacture 50 boards does not make sense to me. $5k per board - 40 of which are handed out for proliferation purposes. After it is done, then what? We fund the manufacture of 3k to 5k boards based on this small sample? I do not think people are going to choose to run many nodes on these micro boards and if they are I do not think they will choose to do so on a board designed and developed by a lone builder with no practical experience in commercial hardware development or manufacturing logistics. I do not think its in any way realistic to try and compete against Raspberry Pi, BeagleBoards, Arduinos or Odroids and the other dedicated manufacturers that have spent many years and millions of $ on R&D, supply chain mgmt and distribution. This is not an effective use of treasury funds imo
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Im generally with Hindsight on this one... its a fun project, but the economics just dont make sense, and its not a good enough mode of proliferation to justify the outsized per-unit costs. I MIGHT support a proposal like this if it was tied to a very strong, unique GTM strategy that would get Nouns in front of a new audience.
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(noun40 voting via agora) I want to vote yes for this prop (I care about eth solo staking a lot!) but Im just not sure if its realistic to think solo stakers will choose to run their eth node on this type of board. my setup was this (https://twitter.com/noun40__/status/1627009674603290624; bought them on amazon and pieced them together): - intel nuc $454 - 32GB RAM $182 - 2TB NVMe SSD $173 total = $809 I just dont know if a ~$100 raspberry pi type board is something that ppl will realistically choose to run their eth nodes on.
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Love this new iteration of the prop. Thank you for revising and resubmitting!
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I support the introduction of Nouns in the DIY/Open source computers scene. If true, we would get a lot of positive repercussions and builders attention, since Nouns is a benevolent hackers club at heart. I would stick to a micro computer and try to compete with RaspberryPi. 5OC is an early nouns contributor, he is passionate and I am confident he can deliver something cool with this prop.
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This vote is a bet on the founder. Im a fan of 5oc, hes proven himself to be great at execution (eg, organizing an NYC sailing event never having been to NYC) and an ability to iterate and adapt to improve on his ideas which admittedly are often at the draft stage when we first get to see them. I think there is a more tightly packaged version of the Noun Computer idea hidden inside this prop. One that is even more focused on eth solo staking and better sells that narrative. However, given my belief in 5oc im happy to vote for this iteration of the prop as i expect 5 to continue to iterate and, together with the nouns community, perfect his idea over the coming months. Would it be better to reject this prop and hope 5oc comes back with another, more polished proposal? Possibly. But the nature of the ideas we fund, and early-stage funding in general, is such that not all things are neatly packaged from the start, and this is especially true for ambitious proposals. We are making bets on people to bring their ideas and dreams to life, and this is a bet i think the dao should make.
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This is a revised proposal. I have reduced the scope and focused on delivering blueprints for a cool and affordable computer to run an Ethereum node. I believe this kind of project is necessary and would decentralize the network and make it more valuable. In my opinion, contributing towards the well-being of the whole ecosystem would increase recognition and respect for NounsDAO.
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The proposal has improved quite a bit since the feedback from the previous attempt. I think this is the way the DAO should work.
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Introducing Noun Computers, credit card-sized computers designed for Ethereum staking, blockchain development, and programming learning. The goal is to create a community of developers and supporters for NounsDAO. Noun Computers will offer affordability, versatility, and a great user experience. The project will deliver PCB designs, blueprints, bill of materials, and estimated costs for mass production.
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Fiveoceans_dev
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25 May 2023
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This week:-1. Fiveoceans_dev proposed a project to create Noun Computers, single board computers designed to run Ethereum nodes.-2. The project aims to be more sustainable and cost-effective than using Raspberry Pi's.-3. The proposal required $150K for prototype design and manufacturing, and $50K for compensation.-4. The total cost for manufacturing 3K-5K units was estimated at $450K.-5. Fiveoceans_dev later canceled the proposal but welcomed further comments and suggestions.
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