Proposal 66 (Q1838) : Difference between revisions

Proposal Duration in Months

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Proposal Budget in ETH

64.2

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Abstain Count

0

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Transfer Value in ETH

64.2

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3

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Summary

Nouncil, a council of Nounish BUIDLers and NFT community leaders, is requesting 64.20 ETH to cover Q1 retroactive operating costs, Q2 operating costs, and a pilot for the Nouncil Co mmunity Grant Program. The operating costs will fund administrative tasks like social media management, content development, and proposal development.

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Team Size

3

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Question & Answer

1. Does nouncil not vote on prop house?

Yes, nouncil does vote on prop house. Nouncil selects the Prop House winners using RankedVote, and they submit their votes to Prop House.

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+1. rule of thumb w proposals might be something like: does it take up meaningful time / capital to do this? if not, just build it.

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200 ETH / 10,000 NFTs = a noun with some working capital to spare. is it that mint prices for these projects are < 0.02 ?

The question was whether the mint prices for these projects are less than 0.02 ETH. Toady_Hawk#8950 answered the question by saying that their initial mint price was quite low, as they wanted to get their art out there and build a community.

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<@202986009216942080> We don't have Nouncil APAC call this week?

Yes, there is no Nouncil APAC call this week. The next APAC call will be in 1 hour and 45 minutes from the time Benbodhi#1111 replied.

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<@!337237854696505344> Having read the recent discussion on <#873197966373052426>, I'd like to argue for an additional question that needs to be asked. --How does a nouncil recognize itself? / Do the nouncilors verify themselves ? -Should they be verified? / Is the nouncil important enough to be verifiable?

It is unclear what is meant by verified in this context. The nouncil is as important as its members make it, and they have been given an opportunity to show their worth and the value of linking the nounish states under the banner of the DAO. Newcomers are welcome to give their inputs on the channel, and their input would be as valuable as one with a role.

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<@362737590430072862> <@708131862731554917> <@202986009216942080> --Why don't we divide into to few smaller nouncil-groups of 5-10 nouncilors and rotate voting responsibilities for prop.house between nouncil-groups? --Maybe for PropHouse 5, Nouncil APAC can take full responsibility to review and allocate nouncil-votes? We can report back to Nouncil during weekly call. Later, same approach can be used to accept new applicants etc--divide-and-conquer is the best way to get job done!

The question about dividing into smaller nouncil-groups and rotating voting responsibilities was answered by Toady_Hawk#8950, who mentioned that they are not opposed to creating smaller groups for admin tasks, but they don't think it should extend to proxy voting as it goes against the spirit of one seat one vote and the idea of Nouncil being shared governance. Fiveoceans_dev#5450 agreed with this point, realizing they hadn't considered the one seat one vote concept.

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<@!362737590430072862> and I spoke after the meeting and one takeaway that we are going to focus on for the next meeting is putting the discussion points in a priority order and time stamping them (10 min, 5 min each) so that we can better stay on track and try to keep the meeting closer to 1 hour. It’s awesome talking with you all but easy for us to get lost chatting about nounish things so hopefully this will help us move through the agenda quicker and we can always open up to general discussion at the end. --Thoughts on this?

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<@362737590430072862> Do you always add the props to votes chat or would you like us to add them when they are not in there?

Id say anyone can do that, just keep in mind you have to use the discord timestamp tool and give 60 hour voting window :)-maty#0984: Try your first :P-maty#0984: Also include nouncillor tag and then remove it once the voting is over-maty#0984: Use this for timestamps and just add Y N A emojis,, otherwise its the same as votes chat :)-https://r.3v.fi/discord-timestamps/

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<@362737590430072862> do you think it is okay to use nouncillor tag to ask everyone if they support deletion of discord?

It is okay to use the nouncillor tag to ask everyone if they support deletion of Discord. JoelCares#5898 suggested posting a question in the #casual-poll channel in the Nouncil Backup Discord for temp checks and questions. The topic will also be on their meeting agendas.

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<@362737590430072862> I'm messaging some people from the Combinator round that had more than 5 votes, but didn't win. If we begin conversations to solidify their props and put them to a vote to get them on chain through Nouncil, where would like those conversations to happen? Can get set up a new Nouncil channel for that? I assume you don't want them here.

JoelCares#5898: For now you can create threads in <#980821495704064031>

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<@!362737590430072862> should we have a vote to finalize the governance doc?

Yes, a vote should be held to finalize the governance document. JoelCares#5898 agreed and asked Toady_Hawk#8950 if they want to create the vote.

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<@!362737590430072862> should we take a vote on the current proposal to start?

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<@362737590430072862> what's the hardest part for you when evaluating a bunch of proposals?

The hardest part for rocketman#1802 when evaluating a bunch of proposals is the sheer volume of things to evaluate, as mentioned by JoelCares#5898.

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<@362737590430072862> when does the proposal go on chain?

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<@362737590430072862> when does voting end for the epsorts expansion to go on-chain?

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<@372465201808670721> could you please give our new Nouncillors their role? Thank you 🙏 ❤️

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<@!385395538071388162> Tbh I don’t think this is a problem. This discussion started on twitter first and then carried over here into the discord. And many projects who were not initially here were pinged and/or added by those of us who were here since the inception. I think we are all nounish maxis here and nobody has shown any reticence to include other projects for fear of diluting their influence thus far. --At the end of the day, <@!813421644298321961> has given us a pretty unique opportunity, with the caveat that we need to organize ourselves first to take advantage. With that in mind, I say let’s set a cutoff date for additions to the list, and move forward with a clear procedure for addition of members in future. Thoughts?

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<@390924414944018443> are you able to post in the thread about your prop? If so , please do 🙏 it was created to concentrate the discussion to one place, better for everyone involved

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<@390924414944018443> will some of the NFTs be reserved for the nouners/nounders?--Also have you all thought of doing some social giveaways/campaign with these? Could be good to help proliferate even more. Either way, excited about the proposal! We’ll done. <a:noun_heart:907783392182014012>

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<@410593947027505162> In the meeting you said that you want to give your 1 eth of nouncil community grants to someone else. Did you pick anyone? I propose we put our eth together to colab with artists to produce physical/digital art pieces for sns. I am thinking $1k per artwork. We can post an open call via nouncil twitter account. What do you think? anyone else is free to join as well!

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<@410593947027505162> ive always been curious how you insert 1:1s into the lost nouns auctions?

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<@410593947027505162> (or anyone else) do you know what the Pantone colors are for nounish blue and red?

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<@410593947027505162> We converting nouns.wtf to Tailwind?

Yes, there is a discussion about converting nouns.wtf to Tailwind. cdt#3727 mentioned that they have been trying to lay the seeds for a while and are working on trying to get prop house converted first as a baby step. sidenoun#1868 thinks it would be cool and open for collaboration since many people know Tailwind.

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<@496453865399648256> if your prop is not successful this round (I hope it is, but competition is fierce again), what do you and <@719704406886580266> think about having Nouncil (if Nouncil is willing) support a bid on chain?

If the proposal is not successful this round, metamonk#0001 and the team would be elated to be considered for an on-chain proposal. They have had a few sessions to analyze what the entire design system would look like, but the plan is far from finalized. They were initially thinking that it would make more sense to make a request to small grants and execute on the Nounish Icon Library to demonstrate the vision within a smaller scope before ramping up to the full design system. If it makes more sense to present the full project on the Discourse to be refined and voted on, they are certainly open to that as well.

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<@497119763286196225> are sharks hosting noun o clock tomorrow? 🙂

Yes, sharks are hosting Noun O'Clock tomorrow. Toady_Hawk#8950 mentioned that they will set up the Spaces on Nouncil Twitter.

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<@497119763286196225> what exactly shark DAO do tho?

Shark DAO is a group of Nouns enthusiasts, builders, and collectors. They have 6 Nouns and have funneled some of the top talent into the Nouns ecosystem. They offer a low-cost entry into the Nouniverse and provide a place to talk about Nouns with experienced builders. They sponsor Props from their community, work on their own NFT project, and do other creative works from the DAO. They also collect Nouns and Noun Derivative works.

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<@603240181050638346> <@881315476163141642> <@847944673129005066> Question! Did you have anything to do with creating and submitting Proposal 55?

Vapeape#3087 did not have anything to do with creating and submitting Proposal 55.

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<@708131862731554917> <@202986009216942080> <@362737590430072862> <@819316859097579530> --I am not certain of tomorrow's agenda, but, would I be able to present a tl;dr of all of the mandates submissions at the end of the meeting?

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<@708131862731554917> <@202986009216942080> <@362737590430072862> Can we add Messhup's proposal to the agenda? Looking for more feedback.

Messhup's proposal was not directly mentioned in the provided conversation context. However, Benbodhi#1111 mentioned that they added a few requests to the agenda, but it is unclear if Messhup's proposal was one of them. No answer located.

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<@708131862731554917> <@362737590430072862> if we get a chance today, can we discuss my initiative to create an instagram PR campaign for nouns 1st anniversary? I made AR nouns filter and working on a website where you can mint instagram photos with AR-nouns-glasses. Here is my proposal--https://extreme-almanac-62e.notion.site/Nouns-Gallery-cd3caa2c7791480b82c3f01ea74f5f06

Toady_Hawk#8950 mentioned that they will put the initiative to create an Instagram PR campaign for Nouns 1st anniversary on the agenda, but there are already 11 items, so it might be tough to discuss it during the meeting.

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<@708131862731554917> <@362737590430072862> would you like to participate in ETHSeoul as Nouncil members? It is possible to join as Speakers and spread word about NounsDAO and Nouncil. I think we can get put a proposal to get travel expenses?

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<@708131862731554917> Do you know how many votes did it require for this round of new Nouncillors?

It required 15 votes for this round of new Nouncillors.

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<@708131862731554917> I listened to Fomo but missed the keyword. Same as yesterday?

The keyword for today was nounyo. However, the window for using it is likely closed now, as the event was kept very tight and the auction ran long.

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<@708131862731554917> nouncil dinner with a toga dress code?

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<@!708131862731554917> What will the proceeds for Super Blocks be used for?

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<@708131862731554917> when does that 1eth funding round happen? The channel for it disappeared.

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<@!708131862731554917> you want me to make an account and reserve it for @nouncil at least?

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<@756585502391664822> strong yes to putting Nouns Sounds on chain. --A good article by Gary Vee in 2018 on why sonic branding matters.-https://www.garyvaynerchuk.com/the-rise-of-audio-branding/--Suggest a crisper prop name to communicate value. -Noun Sounds is great -'Ecosystem' feels washy--Something action led like...--Noun Sounds: Proliferate Nouns through Sonic Branding Assets--Noun Sounds: Proliferate Nouns by creating Audio Brand Library--Noun Sounds: Proliferate Nouns by creating Sound Signatures For Builders--Will Amazon Alexa and Siri be Noun Sounds aware on launch? What will be the activation word(s)

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<@!804065259383685161> <@!846656983733501952> just thought id ping you and ask if you thought about joining the nouncil?

Brianj#3816 initially thought that joining the nouncil was only open to derivative project leaders, which he is not. However, JoelCares#5898 encouraged him to join, and Brianj#3816 expressed interest in joining in that case.

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<@!804462491999535135> here's a first draft. I'd wait for confirmation from the Nouners below that this is the best way to do it though, I haven't personally delegated a Noun.--<@!827708794841727076> / <@!813421644298321961> / <@!881747285602611202> I threw together a quick tutorial on how to delegate a Noun using EtherScan. Can you look this over and confirm it's correct and the simplest way to do delegation? I can make a much nicer version in the future.--https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MDYV56Lmm_qd18O7hQLYD3gTZoISzm0ZpONGbK7Gp-Q/edit?usp=sharing

JoelCares#5898 created a tutorial on how to delegate a Noun using EtherScan and shared the link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MDYV56Lmm_qd18O7hQLYD3gTZoISzm0ZpONGbK7Gp-Q/edit?usp=sharing. Illiquidjpeg#3448 confirmed that the process looks correct, and JoelCares#5898 later mentioned that they confirmed with wag that the process is good.

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<@813140072609218573> Does nouncilors have a discount for the fun glasses?

Nouncilors do not have a specific discount for the fun glasses. However, Bigshot Klim#1853 mentioned that there will be a special code for claims, allowing anyone in the community to get a wholesale rate for their orders, possibly even less. For Australian members, they are considering shipping a large case to someone in Australia to distribute locally, as shipping from the US to Australia can be expensive and have high VAT. Benbodhi#1111 volunteered to handle this distribution.

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<@813140072609218573> hey Klim, love the design and the prop. Just one question: what are the nounish frens made of?

The nounish frens are made of solid ABS for the bodies, noggles, and stands, and the heads are made of injection-molded PVC.

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<@813421644298321961> <@372465201808670721> I have built a tool that allows a DAO to share a Twitter account. It's based on a Vitalik Buterin's idea. Can I DM you? I think it would be cool for Nouns.

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<@!813421644298321961> <@!827708794841727076> Might it be possible to have a Nounish Councillor role created and assigned to facilitate messaging on here?

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<@!813421644298321961> <@!908510562047123506> just noticed that we cannot @ the new Nouncillor role in order to get the attention of everyone for a poll or discussion. Is this something that just needs to to index, or do you need to give us permissions for that?

i think we just have to enable it for the role. will fix shortly

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<@!827708794841727076> Is the previous request to have Roles assigned to members possible? I think it will make organization infinitely easier if we can tag all Nouncillors at once.

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<@!827708794841727076> Just a thought as I catch up on the goings-on of Nouners General -- might it be possible for the Nouncil to send a rep to your Nouner conference calls like the one that was just held? Or is that a call for owners only, not delegatees? Just thinking it would be highly interesting and educational for some of our members to be able to take part. TIA

Yes, it is possible for the Nouncil to send a representative to the Nouner conference calls. The 'nounish-emissary' role was recently created for this purpose, and the idea of adding a designated Nouncillor can be brought up.

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<@827708794841727076> so by ID meaning across all times we've voted 70% of nouncil _members_ have turned out?

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<@859974012808331315>, would love your feedback on the Nounable prop. Shoot me a friend request if you can, I want to chat a bit more about the ICE conversation we had a few weeks ago.-https://discord.com/channels/849745721544146955/1001100725830557706/1001101902471233567

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<@!908510562047123506> would it be helpful if I created a shared Google sheet with all the projects who would like to be involved? Might help for organization and vote tallying in future. I can do that this afternoon if it’s helpful.

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<@!910446457004359680> asked a good question, whether who gets the free Noun is part of the DAO or? Obviously being in a DAO is great but a lot of responsibility too (so whoever gets it has to understand that)

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<@910446457004359680> is the site on a public Github repo we can see/open PRs for?

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<@&947202149136343080> can we have a vote to put this proposal on chain? https://discourse.nouns.wtf/t/proposal-founding-partners-of-nft-seattle/2158?u=lennoxtakura.eth

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<@&947202149136343080> I would like to formally request a vote to see if Nouncil would sponsor my proposal for Nouns! An Animated Pilot -https://discourse.nouns.wtf/t/nouns-an-animated-pilot/1634/36 as seen on discourse.-- If it passes Nouncil, I would need to formalize the final proposal to just have the pertinent info and would like to go over that with whoever would be on the MULTISIG for the prop.-- <@362737590430072862> could we make a thread to discuss this in the <#980821495704064031> channel?

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<@&947202149136343080> -Nouncil Meeting 12a - APAC-Audio and Notes--Notes from Nouncil Meeting 12a - APAC--**1. Coral Orca Final Discussion**- - 2 of us have made our views clear in the discord chats already.- - Additional: Coral has been around for a long time, one misdemeanour shouldn’t remove him from nouncil, but grants removed makes sense.--**2. Code of conduct**- - Privileged position - don’t take it for granted- - The Defining Triangle: three parties who's interest Nouncillors consider- 1. People seeking funding to proliferate Nouns (Prop house applicants)- 2. People who own Nouns (Nounders/Nouners)- 3. People who represent Noun interests (Nouncillors)- - It is expected that nouncillors act in the best interests of all parties and that nouncillors don't abuse their position.- - **Disciplinary Procedures/Options**- - Instant dismissal mentioned as punishment for gaming votes/cheating going forward- - Removal of permissionless grant eligibility (removed for a round or more)- - Removal of wag retro rewards eligibility (removed for a round or more)-- - If you had any grant eligibility removed, could you get it back?- - through actions (make up for it)- - through time (wait a period of time)--**3. Permissionless Grant**- - Let's offer it to new nouncillors- - Submit a round of ideas- - Nouncil vote for top 6 to get 1eth each for their idea- - Permissionless grant thread not visible to thaswami, maybe others... is this intended to display only to eligible nouncillors?- - Need to add clear Permissionless Grant info to the welcome doc, with links to the docs or embedded.--**4. Voting Participation**- - New nouncillors weren’t aware of the % expectation of voting to keep “nouncillor in good standing” - let’s make it clear, is it to do with eligibility for rewards?- - Maybe now we have the welcome doc, we can make it clear that your voting participation should remain above a certain percentage.- - votes witnessed reset or new column votes witnessed since participation rule after rule is in place officially.- - If no reset, new nouncillors hwo missed some votes recently will take quite a few votes to get back above 69%.- - Maybe a different percentage threshold?- - If a nouncillor knows in advance that they can’t vote (will be inactive in discord for a

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<@&947202149136343080> people, I have just sent that DM to most of you with the private link for the Rank Ballot Prop House vote. Please check your DM's and check out the link. Shouldn't take more than 5 minutes to vote, maybe 10 min or so to read Maty's summary of proposals. --The following people have DMs turned off so please add me as a fren so I can send you the secret message. 👀 --<@910446457004359680> -<@935275168069206027> -<@428632361002074132> -<@860360610066595860> -<@938316736585941062> -<@496453865399648256> -<@762757567415582751> -<@232538352958701579> -<@837380312215978026> -<@501964507439038474> --And Alt Nouns-- what did he change his discord name to? (We need to update the excel directory with his new name <@362737590430072862>)

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a delegate page wouldn't be a huge task - not worthy of an on-chain proposal for instance. Although tutorials and helpful content surrounding it could be more work. --That's a solid thing for us to discuss when we make a synchronous call work though: What is our first on-chain proposal going to be?

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Agreed sounds less of a pain this way. But this does mean that all voting will have to happen in the discord which means we need to address two things: --1) We need roles for all voting members. And potentially roles for working members (like secondary reps from projects eg) and-2) A gated channel for voting separate from this discussion channel. --Does anyone have the ear of a nounder to see if those are possible?

Yes, it is possible to create roles for voting members and a gated channel for voting separate from the discussion channel. In the conversation, JoelCares#5898 requested a NOUNCILLOR role and a #nouncil-vote channel from a Discord admin. 4156#9052 later mentioned that they had set up the role and were open to creating a separate channel for voting if necessary.

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Agree with this plan —the final vote will provide additional insights.

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ahhh gotcha - who would be best to hit up about verification for nouns?

Toady_Hawk#8950: I believe <@813421644298321961> runs the Nouns twitter--Based on the conversation, you should contact user @813421644298321961 for verification related to Nouns.

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___ --Also <@!400168997779275778> I had two unanswered questions from the Discourse post, would you mind answering these please? I imagine these are stretch goals at best, or simply out of scope, but I'd love to see these eventually:-- - Would this marketplace support auctions of derivative NFTs- - Would it support Collection Offers, like LooksRare? - or - could it support Nounish Derivative offers across all collections? Would be awesome to see increased liquidity for Nounish NFTs.

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Also <@&947202149136343080> people on a less fun note than adding folks, <@!362737590430072862> <@!908510562047123506> and I were chatting and we noticed that one current member of the Nouncil has not voted once and has in fact apparently left the Nouns server. I think we may need to unfortunately put up a vote to remove that individual (Weme), unless someone has some insight as to what might be going on?

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also, curious about a voting % update: do we have a cell for overall average of nouncillor voting turnout? i see the breakdown per prop.

The overall average of Nouncillor voting turnout is 72.49%.

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also for me, the Criminals project, and the Decentralized Record Label don't have any Nounish connection (besides CC0, and decentralized respectively) I personally feel that is too broad. What do you guys think? (The rest of applicants aside from these 3 seems awesome to me!)

The Decentralized Record Label project could be cool and Nounish eventually, but there's isn't any more info about it and none of the Nounish elements exist yet. I'd love to see people already have solid Nouns ties established. I might vote no on this one, and DM him to encourage him to apply again when his Nounish project has moved forward a bit.

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Also, how do we feel about applicants applying for projects yet to be released?

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Also is WeedsWTF here? Whats your discord username?

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also lost nouns not repped on this list, but I think <@!410593947027505162> is in the channel... should we do a last call for confirmations?

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Also need removal rules for sure. How would we handle removals with Soulbound access tokens?

The question about handling removals with Soulbound access tokens was answered by wag#5265, who provided a link to the MetaCartel MCV whitepaper and mentioned the ragekick example as a relevant practice.

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also wen lil nouncil?

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Also, what's a good reason to abstain from a vote instead of just no?

A good reason to abstain from a vote instead of just voting no is usually if there is a conflict of interest. Abstentions can be more productive to discourse when choosing a side, but they can also feel like a soft no.

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Also, would you buy something like this? In my mind, the vertical Nouns glasses represent the Nouns Museum as a symbol. This is an oversized Japanese cut t shirt, I wanted the largest possible one to be able to showcase the Vertical Nogles prominently. I'm still trying to find an on demand manufacturer that could do this, so far everpress seems to be the most collaborative in terms of feedback and capacity to deliver this design, if you know of anybody that could do something like this please let me know. 🙂

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also - you free right now to do some Nouncil bio edits? had some thoughts I'm working through now

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alternatively, we could build out something similar to prophouse (galleryhouse) where folks nominate pieces and then vote on what makes it in?

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am i the only nouncillor w difficulty making this time? 1-2hrs later would be ideal for me, otherwise i will keep trying and catch up on the recordings

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And as <@!827708794841727076> said it will cause a conflict with voting so why don’t we just say All Builders present are included, and if anyone has any objection to that definition, make it clear before tomorrow?

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And is it 12.5eth for each poster from an artist + 50% of mint as well? That sounds a bit high, feels like they could definitely lower the mint price.

Yes, it is 12.5 ETH for each poster from an artist + 50% of mint as well. However, yitong#9038 mentioned that they are considering lowering the mint price and increasing the amount to retain the same revenue, in order to make the project more accessible.

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AND what’s up w/votes on prop 121? I’m surprised at all the no votes 🤔 anyone have insight here?

There seems to be a more stringent approach to voting in favor of larger proposals and more focus on the methods of proliferation, whether they are as effective as other approaches. Some reasons for the no votes on prop 121 could be the size of the ask and the desire for an MVP before a full episode. However, it's difficult to pinpoint the exact reasons for the no votes without direct feedback from the voters.

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Another question. Do delegated nouns vote in one block for nouncil, or proportionally based on the votes? Example. We pass a vote 67-33 for a proposal. Do all 12 nouns vote yes, or do they split 8 yes, 4 no?

Delegated Nouns vote as a block in Nouns DAO. Separating votes becomes a technical challenge. In Prop House, they have experimented with breaking the votes up proportionally.

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<a:noun_gm:912067702447804477> all, how can lil nouns join nounish council?

Lil nouns can join the Nounish Council by participating in the Discord channel, as mentioned by 4156#9052: this discord channel is the nounish council. welcome 😂.

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Any artists in here interested in chatting about nounish idea?

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Any chatter about some Nouncil funding again? I’ve been building some little things in our community and I could use some reward Eth to get them more connected.

JoelCares mentioned working on a proposal for Q3 Nouncil operations funding and wrapping up the pilot community grants program. They plan to compile project reports from the pilot program and use the results to apply for a continuation of that program. While this doesn't directly answer the question about Nouncil funding again, it does indicate that there are plans in motion for funding opportunities in the future.

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Any idea how to make the link preview show up properly? It shows just the NounsDAO instead of the Prop 96.

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Any ideals on the optimal approach ?

The optimal approach discussed for voting on proposals is to use emoji reacts in Discord for each proposal, with each nouncilor having a certain number of votes to cast. A scoring system needs to be agreed upon, and the top reacted proposals would be selected. Another solution mentioned is using a ranked ballot voting site to facilitate the voting process.

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any idea why lilnouns trade so much higher than lost nouns?

Lil Nouns trade higher than Lost Nouns because they are more comparable to OG Nouns, having a DAO, treasury, Discord, and proposal pipeline. Lost Nouns, on the other hand, started 4+ months ago and do not have these features. It makes sense for Lost Nouns' prices to trail off as the auction number increases.

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Any interest on collaborative extension that would raise funds to collectively purchase a Noun?

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Any Nouners willing to help get this on chain? We've had a lot of discussions and this is just long overdue.

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Any nouner who can look into my proposal idea and sponsor it?

Evil#0150 asked if any nouner could look into their proposal idea and sponsor it. Toady_Hawk#8950 replied, suggesting that Evil#0150 could give a quick pitch on the weekly Nouncil call on Thursday at 10am EST. Evil#0150 agreed to do so.

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Anyone familiar with ProNouns? @pronoun_nft on twitter? Just want to learn more -thanks

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Anywhere us Non Nouncillors can see the voting in real time?

Non Nouncillors can see the voting in real time at https://discord.com/channels/849745721544146955/947209355189702666/981937222934732871.

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Are both props on walls?

The question was whether both props are on walls. The answer provided by krel#0404 is that there will be 1 wall + a small website, and 1 posters + NFTs.

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A recent SharkDAO post had a lot of relevant groups tagged:-https://twitter.com/sharkdao/status/1493601974415155201--Question - who exactly is invited here? I imagine groups like Sidenouns and Noadz that have Nouns in their Name, have clear Nouns connections, or were funded by Nouns, fit in easily. A simple possible criteria: The group is clearly Nouns related in a major way.--What about CC0 collections / groups like CryptoVanz that are influenced by Nouns but in a less obvious way? A few of their vans have noggles, but not many. There's quite a few collections like this.--If groups are going to be excluded it'd be nice to establish the criteria earlier than later.

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are the projects unminted?

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Are there any resources to view Prop House in descending order of how many votes?

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Are there any test builds to show what the games would look like?

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Are we recording calls via OBS? Saw this in the Mee6 back end today- not sure if it's something the Nounders want to do but could help with recording calls and things.

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are you planning to put all 26 people on the multisig? idk what it will cost to put that many signatures on chain, but fyi it may not be cheap

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Are you proposing to move the voting on proposals to ICE instead? On first thought I‘d def support that for nouncil but have to give it some deeper through obv

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As in from us Nouncilors?

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A specific nounish idea? Or nounish ideas in general? Yes and yes, tho

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as this is well past the idea stage, I can probably find a sponsor and let it go vote that way. Is it one sponsor or quorum?

One sponsor is needed to post a proposal.

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At suggestion from <@410593947027505162> I’m sharing this proposal here for nouncil input, any further info that would be helpful to clarify? Really appreciate any advice!--https://discourse.nouns.wtf/t/proposal-create-wtf-are-nouns-animated-video/1103

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At the moment all work done on Nouncil should be self-recorded, and every quarter we do a group Coordinape to collectively disperse ETH. For Q2 we have 12 ETH. <@708131862731554917> could we add that info to the welcome doc? I'll try to dig up our work parameters out where we describe what gets compensated and what doesn't

At the moment all work done on Nouncil should be self-recorded, and every quarter there is a group Coordinape to collectively disperse ETH. For Q2, they have 12 ETH.

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At the suggestion of <@!362737590430072862>, would the Nouncil take a look at a proposal draft for a cancer charity beer garden and offer feedback? https://discourse.nouns.wtf/t/proposal-sponsor-charity-beer-garden-and-establish-str-housing-for-local-childrens-hospital-families/787/2

I've seen this - thank you for posting here, and I will try and sit down to provide feedback within a day or two. --Nouncil frens - I think it would be very useful if we're able to provide feedback on in-progress proposals in Discord and Discourse. It's a lot of work! But if anyone wants to hop in the Discourse and provide their feedback it'd be appreciated.

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At this stage, how important is it for your Noun extension holders to be able to vote on what the Nouncil should do? If we could combine all token holders of all the extensions (excluding those minted on Open Sea's Store 😢) to vote in a combined Snapshot space, is that valuable/useful?

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Awesome progress! Can we get a follow back from @nouncil to @noundles?

Yes, the Nouncil Twitter account followed back the Noundles account as requested by EltonPenguin. Toady_Hawk confirmed this and asked if anyone else needed a follow from the Nouncil Twitter account.

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Awesome. Side note; wen noggles in Pokémon go?

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Biz seems to be gone his account was deleted. NanoNouns says he is not Biz. I believe Hoodie is ApeBlond?

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btw guys nouncil votes isn't private - maybe it should?

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btw how does nouncil put up proposals?

btw how does nouncil put up proposals?--Nouncil members can put up proposals by undelegating and submitting their proposal on-chain. Alternatively, they can submit a proposal in the Discord server for discussion, work through Nouncil notes, and then put up a vote that says Does Nouncil want to put this on-chain. The proposal needs to pass a Nouncil vote that confirms they want to put it on chain.

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But, by “power up” does that refer to occasional feature of Noun glasses?

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but in seriousness are we making a Nouncil group pfp? do we need to decide on what THE lost noun is?

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By dilution are you implying that NounsDAO would own part of our project in exchange for a Noun?

By dilution, Toady_Hawk#8950 is implying that NounsDAO would own part of their project in exchange for a Noun. They mentioned that the answer would be yes, as many community members have talked about hoping the project could buy a Noun. The main challenge would be tokenization of their project to allow for dilution.

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By the way did we talk about having our own discord? that might help organize the conversation. I feel like the nouncil thread needs to be broken down a bit.

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Can anyone help me with how to put pictures in a prop house proposal? I see some others with them, but I can't seem to figure it out.

To put pictures in a prop house proposal, you can try using HackMD or use a service like postimages.org to upload your images and then add them to your proposal using markdown.

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Cancel and fix it? I was also thinking it would be cool to give the nouncil the possibility to earn a noun, referring to what <@337237854696505344> said about the prop-builder councils. I think it would give us more agency.

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Can someone point me in the right direction for how to vote for prop house items?

To vote for prop house items, you should wait for the Ranked Ballot vote to go live, as mentioned by Toady_Hawk#8950. Keep an eye on the channel for updates on when the vote becomes available.

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Can we add a Nouncil emoji <@362737590430072862> ? Just playing around with one.

Yes, a Nouncil emoji can be added.

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Can we add the name of the proposal to the voting post as well?

Sure thing, edited to include the proposal title too 👍

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can we also be in nouncil room too?

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Can we also cap monologues >60secs? 😅

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Can we get a markdown version (probably hackmd) with the exact transactions described at the end pls?

Yes, you can find the markdown version with the exact transactions described at the end in this link: https://hackmd.io/@KnRjFm9QTV2Ez6OIN3oMaw/BJZHsdrJi

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can we get a thread for prop house props, <@760293700587749386>?

There is no answer to the question about doing something nounish while having a beer with Lil Bubble in the provided conversation context.

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Can we include a budget to manage NounsDAO Instagram account? I believe nouns culture has lots of interesting content however somehow there is only 250 followers on Instagram. For example, boredapeyc have 650k.--If no one from nouner-general is planing to run Instagram then I propose nouncil take it under our management wing. The goal will be 500k followers

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Can we include a budget to manage NounsDAO Instagram account? I believe nounsdao funds lots of interesting content however somehow there is only 250 followers on Instagram. For example, boredapeyc have 650k.--If no one from nouner-general is planing to run Instagram then I propose nouncil take it under our management wing. The goal will be 500k followers

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can we noun dao vote on the tattoo you get?

Yes, according to JoelCares#5898, every 10th tattoo is allocated towards the DAO.

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Can we vote on new heads? <:Smoke:889309851950391317>

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Can you put that cow bean proposal on there if you haven't already?

Yes, the cow bean proposal has been shared in the conversation. Here's the link provided by JoelCares#5898:--https://discourse.nouns.wtf/t/mooonbeans-web3-meets-fmcg-a-collaboration-proposal-between-nouns-and-sublime/1239

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Can you put the comments in the votes chat? I'll add a discourse link as well. I asked that question too.

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Check Acknowledge TT I think it was a free font, very Nounish I use it a lot

The fonts that are optimized for print and legibility are generally the sans serif and less stylized fonts. Soondooboop#0001 mentioned they will make a note to include information like this for each font in the Noundation.

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Cheers, mate. Thanks for your feedback.-Just thinking that maybe 12 hours could be too long? Without a summary posted? As well as for the person responsible for the shift?--And I thought about this for all channels, not only Nouncil...-Anyway, looking forward to an Australasia timezone chat 😎

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confused about p60. why so many no’s?--i get most ppl don’t love the presence or the veto but this is proposing to _test_ and make sure the thing _works_? wouldn’t we want to make sure this mechanic functions as expected? --am i missing something? are y’all voting no cause you don’t _like_ the veto?

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cool, so funds pass through/start in prop-house wallet address and are redistributed from there?

Yes, funds pass through/start in the prop-house wallet address and are redistributed from there. This is the off-chain version of what might eventually make it on-chain as its own protocol.

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Cool, so on that note, maybe <@!362737590430072862> can potentially start the Discord bot on a channel where extension leaders (with roles) can get a discussion & votings going?

The question was about starting a Discord bot on a channel where extension leaders can get discussions and votings going. The answer provided by JoelCares#5898 is that the bot is still in development and not quite ready for use. In the short term, they suggest using emoji polls for consensus.

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Could anyone share the list of initial Nouncil members / reps?

The list of initial Nouncil members can be found at the top of the nouncil channel: https://discord.com/channels/849745721544146955/943943469821476944/943944667844706424

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Could change contract address for rinkeby nounToken and test with rinkeby nouns?

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Could Nouns somehow help get web3 functionality to Notion? that would be a big public good in my eyes

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couldn’t anyone at anytime just join with no proejct?

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Curious, why did nouncil leave bud light out of the charity beer garden even and go to their rivals instead? seems kind of like a low blow to the largest beer brand in the world

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Dear Nouncil, can you use your Nouns to put up propositions?

Yes, Nouncil members can use their Nouns to put up propositions. Although they haven't done it yet, it has been discussed in a few conversations, and there could be a pathway for people to get proposals reviewed and submitted by Nouncil.

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Deeze already in the nouners?

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Depends on verbiage I suppose

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Did I vote already? I’ve lost track 😅

You have not yet voted.

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Didn’t even know this was possible. So you can disable marketplace listings?

Yes, disabling marketplace listings is possible. As waterdrops.#8429 mentioned, marketplaces generally require contracts to follow the ERC721 or ERC1155 standard, and a contract without a transfer function wouldn't be compliant in that sense.

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did we have a nouncil poap?

Yes, there was a Nouncil POAP.

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Did we just receive an idea for our first Proposal on a silver platter guys?

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Did you have a Q about Nouncil twitter Ser Noadz?

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|-|-Did you see prop100?

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Does a broad goal of proliferating Nouns also make sense for us?

Yes, a broad goal of proliferating Nouns makes sense for the Nouns DAO community. The conversation also mentions giving Nouns BUIDLoors a voice in Nouns DAO to support the proliferation of Nouns.

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Does anybody know where to find a right click save version of the Nouns? when I got to Opensea, I can't save them as images and if I do a screen capture they show with weird colours... I want to feature some of the most prominent nouns from the space in the museum! PLS HELP!

You can find a right-click save version of the Nouns at https://nouns.wtf. Right-click and save the image, but it may save as an unknown file type. If that happens, rename the file and add .svg to the end. Alternatively, you can find Nouns assets at https://nouns.center/assets.

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Does anyone have any other clear proposals? I will add and edit any distinct options to the list. Also feel free to discuss the pros and cons of each one further.

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Does anyone have final notes before i post it to Discourse and share it to Nouns at large? I'm planning on sharing it Monday, and further notes after today can just be included in the Discourse.

The question was about whether there were any final notes before posting the proposal to Discourse and sharing it with the Nouns community. In the direct replies, Count Boanez suggested including guidelines on how the 1 ETH should/should not be used in the actual proposal. JoelCares agreed to add a few NoNos to address this concern.

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does anyone have the ID handy for my pyramid noun

The ID for your pyramid noun is 147.

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Does anyone here have the Nouns DAO vote timelines off hand?

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____--Does anyone know where these users have gone? Have they changed their names?-HoodieNoun#2028-biz noun#3815

HoodieNoun#2028 has changed their name to apeblond#2028. Biz noun#3815's account seems to have been deleted, and NanoNouns confirmed they are not Biz.

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Does anyone take notes from the Nouncillor calls similar to Oni’s awesome Nouner Calls notes?

Yes, notes from the Nouncillor calls can be found by going to https://nouncil.wtf/gov and clicking on Meetings. There, you'll find the agenda, audio recording, and notes for each meeting.

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does nouncil want to be involved in possible coordinape rounds/ hackathon logistics etc ? these are variants of the same thing (retro-fund) just implying dif timelines and am at a bit of an impasse on deciding how to push them fwd..

The question about whether the nouncil wants to be involved in possible coordinape rounds or hackathon logistics was not directly answered. However, there were opinions shared by various members, with some preferring coordinape rounds over hackathons and others discussing the challenges and potential benefits of using coordinape. The conversation also touched upon the importance of group size, onboarding requirements, and the need for social organization around coordinape.

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Does Nouncil want to host noun oclock tomorrow?

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Does that mean these projects will become a DAO if they get a Noun? <@!708131862731554917> Are you all converting your project into a DAO now?

Yes, some projects may consider converting into a DAO if they get a Noun. However, the conversation does not provide a definitive answer for all projects mentioned. The discussion mainly revolves around the challenges and considerations that projects face when thinking about becoming a DAO or acquiring a Noun.

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Do I get eth for making a noun tattoo on a sleeping friend? or does eth goes to the tattooed friend?

Noun 22#2222: if you force someone to get a tattoo against their will-Noun 22#2222: i would fund both you and the friend--According to Noun 22, if you were to make a noun tattoo on a sleeping friend, they would fund both you and the friend. However, it's important to note that this is not a recommendation to force someone to get a tattoo against their will.

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Do Nouns have an official representative?

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Don't get discouraged <@456226577798135808>--full transparency on my vote, there just wasn't enough there yet for me--I encourage you to continue to walk a nounish walk and put more together. The general idea you have is a good one, but there is still more building to do. I am sure during this month you will have many opportunities to execute more of your ideas--there are so many places to curate content from. I hope you stick with it and reapply again. ⌐◨-◨

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don't you? how difficult would it be for you to get a proposal on-chain?

It would not be too difficult for wag#5265 to get a proposal on-chain, but there might be some concerns about approval since it's not exactly a Noun but a derivative form. However, Noun 40#8015 suggests that there would be a fair amount of Nouners who would enthusiastically vote for a purely Noadz film to be made, and it's worth putting a proposal forward. Toady_Hawk#8950 also mentions that proposals from Noun derivatives could be considered, so it might be worth trying.

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Do we have a nouncil call today? I missed a couple calls but I am committed to attend this week

Yes, there is a nouncil call today in 58 minutes.

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Do we have quorum in Nouncil votes?

The current quorum for Nouncil votes is 22.

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Do we have to do anything further to switch out nouncillor for GnarsDAO?-<@860360610066595860> -> <@202986009216942080>

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Do you basically want some measure of nounciler voter participation rate?

The rough first calculation for nouncillor voter participation rate is 74%.

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Do you have a Nounish project you are actively working on?

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Do you have some background on the metrics used here? I’d love to iterate on this and see if we can build a best practice system around these and some ideas I have around proposal structure as well.

The metrics used in the conversation are based on the I.C.E scoring system, which stands for Impact, Confidence, and Ease of execution. The key attribute of I.C.E is its simplicity and lightweight guesstimate nature. The quant and accuracy come from multiple nodes (in this case, Nouncillors) using it to create a more accurate mean score. You can find more information about I.C.E scoring at https://productfolio.com/ice-scoring/.

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do you mind sending the full address associated with the ENS?--i’ll double check in like half hour when i’m home.--i initially converted them all from that spreadsheet on the nouncil site.

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Do you run a Nouns-related extension or building something nouns related <@!914985121403248662>?

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Do you tell them about the nouns

Yes, profwerder#8300 tells people about the nouns.

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Do you think that this approach will net better thought out props or discourage bigger Ideas from being put forth? What do you think it will do for builder retention?

Based on the direct reply from Benbodhi#1111, it seems that they believe the approach will be a positive move in the long term. They trust the capital allocation skills of the voters and think it will make people question the impact and value-add of a successful proposal to the Nouns ecosystem. This could lead to better ROI in terms of proliferation.

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do you want me to remove the tag as soon as the voting expires?

Yes, you can remove the tag as soon as the voting expires. However, when voting is closed, it is usually changed to Voting Closed - Yes Wins - awaiting processing and the nouncillor tag is kept. The nouncillor tag and 'awaiting processing' are removed when the vote is processed with the Gnosis Safe.

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|-Do you want to have Nounish sunglasses? (yes | no)

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DO YOU WANT TO JOIN NOUNCIL!?!?--There are 4 more days left to apply, we will vote on new members May 1. We have received applications from the following people:--<@489109181719248896> , <@859974012808331315> , <@497119763286196225> , <@756585502391664822> , <@819316859097579530> , <@616108366502297615>--If you still want to apply, check out the instructions here:--https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wGOWfLYYiYK9PrAyH4Q-uAWsiwals818XFocYXAh1pY/edit--If you know somebody who should join Nouncil, tag them so they can get in this round.-- - <@804065259383685161>- - <@394697578715021314>- - <@687838299314061320>

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do you want to join? you worked in esports prop. you can have a vote in your delegated vote too. as well as 11 other nouns. application cutoff tonight

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Do you want to nominate some nounish communities to get it started?

There is no direct answer to the question about nominating nounish communities. However, the conversation discusses the idea of forming a Nounish Council with delegated voting and governance participation. The council could potentially include derivative community leaders, service-centric subdaos/extensions, and fractional Noun owners. A multisig might be used for voting, but there is also a suggestion to use a Discord bot for polling and consensus building.

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'Eligible Nouners' what is this category? we're like a judge panel of some sort?

'Eligible Nouners' refers to the Nouncillors and Nouners who are eligible to participate in the Coordinape round for Q1 retroactive Nouncil rewards. They can either nominate themselves for Q1 compensation or volunteer to be a voting-only participant. The process involves nominating members for funding, participating as voters, recording the work completed in Q1, and allocating tokens on Coordinape based on the work done and personal knowledge.

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Feedback from Nouncil Non-Talkers--<@362737590430072862> you've asked/encouraged numerous times for feedback from those who don't talk much on Nouncil calls. And you never gets answers. As someone who doesn't talk much on the call, but isn't hesitant to share my thoughts and talk other places, I'll share some thoughts that may resonate with others and help you and Nouncil overall. --The people who talk most are a few people who started Nouncil, know Nouners (in fact at least 1 actual Nouner), are on the Nouner call, know the history of props and politics. All in a way that dwarfs most of the rest of us. Add to that the proposer of the prop often talks. So, I view the Nouncil call as the time when I get my crash course in the prop so that I can responsibly vote. I take my votes with a lot of responsibility and look into them quite a bit and am bothered (probably more than I should be) when I'm on the fence, can't decide, or go/want to go against the crowd. So, between all the speaking that goes on above, the time constraints, the banter etc. the only reason I would speak is if I have some insight that others wouldn't have or a question to help clarify that others aren't asking. Outside of that, I'm going to listen for the most part until such time as I'm the one who knows enough to speak in a valuable way. This allows me to govern responsibly. The Nouncil call is where I get fully informed and serves an important role as it is for Nouncillors to govern. I don't see it as a negative that a few people speak 93% of the time, since I have that view of the call. --Hope that helps. Follow up welcome if helpful.

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Feel free to post the Discourse link here, usually some Nouncillors will be around to give feedback

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Finally put on my toga for my Noadz. I was wondering if we ever considered different times for the Nouncil calls once in a while for us in the PST time zone?

On yesterdays call, it was agreed that a new time poll would be conducted to consider different times for the Nouncil calls, especially for those in the PST time zone. Toady_Hawk#8950 mentioned they would post the poll soon.

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Finishing up Noun O' Clock, come join us and then we'll pop in here?

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For my part: agree w/ <@756585502391664822> & <@501964507439038474>. Main reason I fell just on the other side of the vote is bc of my views on the fashion industry as a whole and its impact on the environment. Don't get me wrong: I still buy stuff 😅 — but as solid as the proposal is, and as dope as the gear looks, I just personally wasn't 100 on it. There was also one other aspect that factored in for me, though, and that's the overlap of CC0 and DIY culture. While having premium cut-and-sew pieces proliferates nouns at a certain level—and does nothing to prohibit the proliferation of nouns in the DIY space—it feels a bit too far removed from it (for me)…more exclusive than inclusive and therefore *slightly* counter-nounish (…again: to me). IDK if that makes sense but those are my thoughts. I also want to temper all of the above by saying I still think it's a solid prop and my vote for no is not a reflection of the work that went into it or the people behind it.

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For prophouse?

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gm everyone, are there any Nouns that aren't very interested in governance or don't have time and would be open to delegate its voting power to a governance/protocol specialist ? Thanks

Yes. JoshuaFisher#0001 suggests hanging around and finding people who align with your perspective and goals and discussing with them, as most Nouners are open to rational conversations. Additionally, JoelCares#5898 recommends participating in vote discussions in the designated channel and sharing your opinions on the matters being voted on.

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gm fam… not sure if anyone has weighed in on Prop 55 yet, but FWIW, I voted no because this feels like a slippery slope. The NAC is one thing, and I thing there are a lot of use cases for the DAO using Nouns it acquires to create sub-pods, reward work, etc. But acquiring NFTs from a diff project feels like a weird precedent, and not sure it’s the best use of the treasury. --don’t get me wrong… I love toadz! Just feels like the precedent and optics (pun intended) are wrong on this one.--Would like to hear from different perspectives on this one, Thoughts?

Based on the conversation, there are mixed opinions on Prop 55. Some users, like JoshuaFisher#0001, think it's cool for the DAO to buy other projects but suggest more unique 1/1 pieces or honorary pieces instead of sweeping floors. Toady_Hawk#8950 also mentioned a counter-proposal idea to create a Nounish Extensions gallery owned and controlled by the DAO, containing a couple of choice pieces from each Nouncil member collection. However, JoelCares#5898 intends to vote no, as the people listed in the proposal were not consulted.

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gm fellow nouncillors-my bandwidth is super stretched atm-wondering if another Gnars DAO member could slot in for me?-the legend <@202986009216942080> is the perfect candidate-shall I nominate him via the normal channels?

It seems that the question about nominating a replacement Nouncil member was answered in the conversation. The consensus among the participants was that as long as the current representative nominates the new one, it's fine and doesn't require a vote, especially if it's a 1-to-1 switch or temporary proxy.

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Gm fellow Nouncillors,--Not sure if this is the right place to share, but working on a concept for a shared storefront...-for Nounish projects who want their threads on Nouns Athletes over at `shred.wtf` 🤘-Using Shopify it looks like multiple Printful accounts can connect to one storefront.--Yet to work out all the details, but I'm looking to gauge interest. --What's in it for Nounish projects?--- Dedicated collection on shred.wtf-- Support Nouns Athletes with Nounish swag-- Potentially see your swag in their content-- Sell your swag to your/our community-- Your NFT integrated via Manifold Bridge-- NFT holder exclusives/discounts etc-- Engage the athletes' fan bases-- Extra income for your dao?--Quick emoji consensus to gauge interest...

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gm fren, any chance we can feature some lil nouns?

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gm gm <@&947202149136343080> folk. Just a reminder of our call starting in just under 40 min from now at 10 am EST, in Voice-Nouncil.--Here is the Agenda for today-- if you would like to add anything please ping me or we can add it to Other Items at the end also. Apologies <@!935275168069206027> I wanted to try the template you created for today's meeting but it was set to read only permissions for me, so perhaps we can try it for next week.)--<@!827708794841727076> we have your coordinape proposal on the agenda if you're able to pop on for a bit to discuss that a bit more. <@!813140072609218573> we also have your proposal on the agenda if you're able to make it. <@!410593947027505162> and <@!756585502391664822> I added the item about a theme song too. --See you all soon!--<@!337237854696505344> <@!372465201808670721> and any other Nounder/Nouner are welcome to join. New Nouncillors will be formally reviewed and added today, and will be invited to next week's meeting. --Link for agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16hiYveJmjaKEBRkhZopl1y8QFiZgEUtnTIcpVwvto2k/edit?usp=sharing

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gmgm--also wen Nouncillor Oni???🙏

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GM GM Guys --Can someone point me in the direction of who runs the @NounOBlocks account? I’m trying to find an expert in legos to help get us a tiny Dino themed lego set--Any help would be greatly appreciated, ty

The person who runs the @NounOBlocks account is WNX#7117. They have been contacted by RyanMac and are open to starting a group DM with the person doing the project from TinyDinos, RyanMac, and themselves.

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Gm! Is there a list of delegates anywhere? Would love to delegate my vote to a good steward until I’m able to get up to speed on governance

You can delegate your vote to Nouncil, a democratic council of almost 100 nounish builders who actively discuss and vote on Nouns props (nouncil.eth). There's also a list of other individuals and groups seeking delegation here: https://nounsagora.com/?filterBy=seekingDelegation. Additionally, you can check out Nouncil's page at https://nouncil.vercel.app/.

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gm Klim! are you asking for feedback on ideas for what you are doing at the show--what to give away, sell, put in the booth, how to reach people etc or are you asking if we support this, would vote to fund it, sponsor it as Nouncil etc?

Bigshot Klim is asking for feedback on ideas for what to give away, sell, put in the booth, how to reach people, etc., at the Designer Con event. They also mentioned that they would love to get some support and funding to cover giveaway swag and out-of-pocket expenses but would need a committed partner to help with the process.

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GM Nouncillors & Builders. My project NounCreepz is almost ready for launch. I was just wondering if anyone has info, GH or blog posts about on-chain storage? <:noun_face:863562478546190358>

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GM nouncillors! Do you like my toga?

Yes, the Nouncillors liked your toga. They reacted with positive comments and GIFs, such as This is amazing work! and this is fantastic.

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gm nouncilors can you add me manually to the new discord server? I get an error trying to join.

Yes, JoelCares added you manually to the new Discord server and assigned the Nouncillor role to you.

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GM! SharkDAO is working on an automatic solution to go from DAO Vote to NounsDAO vote. Any suggestions?

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GM ! what are we gonna nouncil about today?

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Go for it - the art is all CC0 and no permission is needed for projects like this. Create and have fun!

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Gonna be sharing a lot on the Nouns Brand twitter soon, can we get a Nouncil follow back?

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Good evening Nouncillors! Or Gm wherever u are in the world lol.--Just posted my first prop on Discourse: (About establishing the Nouns Blog)-https://discourse.nouns.wtf/t/nouns-blog-the-start-of-a-nounish-resource/1107/2--If this proposal comes to pass, the project may need some advisors to check out the articles and vet them before getting uploaded onto web2. --Wondering if any Nouncillors will be interested? And I can include a budget for that in the prop if necessary as well haha.

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Great! Could we also include <@!383705280174620704> ? He is the technical half of 3Dnouns and also worked on the nounify app early on.

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Great site. Any other additions happening? It would be cool to have some kind of rolling record of the current Nouns that are delegated, but I don't know if that messes with privacy for anyone.

Yes, you can find information about the current delegated Nouns by visiting http://noun.pics/nouncil.eth?includeDelegates=true.

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Haha if it’s alright can I hop on a Nouncil call sometime soon? Maybe apac cos that fits better with my timezone

Yes, you can hop on a Nouncil call sometime soon. The voice channels are public to listen in to now, and you can type in the chat within the voice channel.

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Has anyone made a Twitter list of Nouncillors? I want to follow all of you!

Here is a Nouncillor twitter list from Nerman: https://twitter.com/i/lists/1498451834545086470

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has the precedent this would set been discussed? other prop builder have been affected by ETH being down. feels like it’s not as simple as opening a prop to give these specific ones more funding.

The question about whether the precedent of giving specific proposals more funding due to ETH being down has been discussed. JoshuaFisher#0001 mentioned that the precedent was set with Prop 73, stating that if you require USD, you need to request USD or convert upon receipt. If you don't convert, the risk is on the proposer. The conversation also touched on the fact that many builders did not convert money from the DAO to USD and the implications of this proposal for others. JoshuaFisher#0001 acknowledged that everyone is relatively new to the space and that moving forward, the mandate is clear, but in the early days, it was less so.

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Has there been any collaboration between Nouns/Nouns DAO and Noun Cats (minting right now)?

There hasn't been any direct collaboration between Nouns/Nouns DAO and Noun Cats. Noun Cats is an independent derivative project, as mentioned by leoclark.⌐◨-◨#7071.

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has there been a quorum established on new applicants?

Yes, a quorum has been established for new applicants. According to the governance document, a minimum of 8 votes is needed for the vote to be valid, and whichever option is leading above that wins.

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Haven't had any time to interact in Nouncil discussions, but that is definitely something I am extremely interested in participating in! Thank you for the mention <@!708131862731554917>, I will be writing and sending that email!

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Hello fellow nouncillors, I managed to grab the nouniversary/nounniversary.eth ENS.-Is anyone taking care of those names in the future? I can transfer those just to make sure the DAO owns their nounish names <a:noun_heart:907783392182014012>

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Hello Nouncil! -I recently got accepted to join as a Nouncilor, but I don't believe we received our roles yet.-Are we eligible to vote already?

You are eligible to vote once you receive your roles, which will be given to you early next week, according to Toady_Hawk#8950. In the meantime, you can participate in the discussions.

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hello nouncillors 🫒 how are folks feeling about x00b's moonbeans prop? any feedback? he will be doing an AMA 7th June at 3PM EST

There isn't a direct answer to how folks are feeling about x00b's moonbeans prop in the provided context. However, profwerder#8300 shared the Discourse link for easier viewing and discussion: https://discourse.nouns.wtf/t/mooonbeans-web3-meets-fmcg-a-collaboration-proposal-between-nouns-and-sublime/1239

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hello nouncil. when is the next call?

The next call is at 10am EST on Thursdays.

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Henlo <@&947202149136343080>! (crossposting from <#970759473624940564>)--We have 100 ETH for people building in the Nouniverse, as per Prop 63 - https://nouns.wtf/vote/63. We have compiled a huge list of people, once it's finallized we will hold a large coordinape round with those nominated and disperse the 100 ETH accordingly.--**BIG LIST OF NOMINEES**-https://nouncil.notion.site/nouncil/e52614f01e56475aa710d716ee8c69b7?v=6d1fe0cff7b645b5ab551c629cf02b16--See yourself on that list? If you have information to add please submit it to us using this form: --**PROP 63 NOMINEE DETAILS FORM - SUBMIT**-https://www.addressform.io/form/ff77863b-f160-4d63-b70e-1ed986a8da07--We need Discord / twitter usernames, wallet addresses, and short & sweet summaries of Nounish contributions. You can also post small updates to <#970759473624940564>. --Dont see yourself on the list? Let us know about your contribution and we will add you.--Nominations and Form Edits will be accepted up until end-of-day July 31. We will manually confirm wallet addresses with Nominees after that by private DM, and then move forward with the Coordinape.

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Hey <@202986009216942080> How do we add an item, looking to intro nouncil to Nouns Press Corps for like a 2 minute sub-item.

Benbodhi#1111: I can add today for you.-When I’ve left the agenda publicly editable we sometimes get a bit much self promo. But you’re more than welcome to add this of course. Especially with a light agenda and not a huge amount of onchain props atm.

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Hey <@202986009216942080> , I haven’t a Nouncilor role yet, what I have to do? Won prop house 4

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Hey <@362737590430072862> —do we have a backup Nouncil discord ready to go in case this suddenly disappears?

Yes, there is a backup Nouncil Discord server ready to go in case the current one suddenly disappears. JoelCares#5898 shared the link to join the Nouncil Backup server: https://discord.gg/SXeyuMbkr8. Guild.xyz is already set up to verify Nouncillor roles.

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Hey <@362737590430072862>, Dowoop said one hasn’t been set up yet for me. Can you help? (Re: prop house voting id). Thanks!

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hey <@!362737590430072862>, just wondering, if I update my Discord username, will it affect anything with nouncil involvement? going to change to 0xigami to suit my twitter handle.

Yes, if you update your Discord username, it will affect your nouncil involvement. However, in this case, JoelCares#5898 acknowledged the change and mentioned that they will update it. They also noted that a process should be established for future username changes to prevent potential issues.

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Hey <@!369420818662293505> or whomever may know—why is the lil noun sent to Nouners birthday Jan 1, 1970? As a 1970 baby myself I found it surprising

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Hey <@708131862731554917> and <@362737590430072862>, I'd like to update the documents on the Nouncil website to reflect the updates from the last couple of months. Would it be better to just suggest edits on the Google docs or could I have access to do that?

Can you suggest edits for now so we can discuss any changes quickly and then we can get you edit privileges for sure to update. Thank you for the initiative

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hey <@708131862731554917> or <@362737590430072862> do you think it would make sense to make a separate channel to consolidate conversations around design for the Nounish design system? Would be helpful so we can incorporate as many nounish elements from as many nounish communities as possible. If so, who could we talk to make one? Perhaps under community-projects

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Hey <@816727974485164062> - you can't see the voice-nouncil channel it at all? Normally regular users can hop in and listen. I'll have to get that changed

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Hey <@&947202149136343080>, 4156 has started doing a daily “standup” spaces where he chats with project leaders about. First one was today with <@393902285396377612> and <@819316859097579530>, and tomorrow <@929683479631908954> and myself will be going on to chat about The Noun Square. --Unfortunately it’s at 10am est so coincides with Nouncil meeting. Since there are a number of Nouncillors on the TNS team, and presumably some Nouncillors might want to listen to 4156 and co also, I’m wondering if there’s any possibility we could move tomorrow’s meeting earlier to 9am? If not, no worries, I’ll find someone to run the meeting and can catch the recording after but just thought I would throw it out there. Please vote 9am or 10am below

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Hey <@&947202149136343080> wanted to get a quick vibe check on this one:--https://discourse.nouns.wtf/t/nouns-irl-art-tour-nyc-edition/1270/3--Do you think its too much with two IRL things at NFT NYC?--Imo i dont think they should be competing for attention / treasury funds and both can be great ways to proliferate nouns. However, 88 eth is a pretty hefty ask, and the ”ROI” looks smaller compared to the vectorDAO proposal? Perhaps the comparison is inevitable--Id like to get this up for voting though, just concerned we do what we can to maximize the chances of this prop. Thanks!

I think with the density of NFT stuff going on, it's fine to have both. And I like that they both have popular artists, who will have their own communities that they're essentially introducing to Nouns/NounsDAO.

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Hey, any effort has been made towards smart nouns glasses?

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Hey, did you apply to nouncil?

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Hey everybody!! I was curious when the next time you’ll be onboarding new nouncilers?

The next time new nouncilers will be onboarded is on the first of the month. To apply, visit Nouncil.wtf and click the button at the top.

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Hey everyone! I have a question; could I do an IP licensing deal for my NFT from the Gutter Cat Gang collection with the Nouns community?

You can use Nouns assets for anything- don't need to ask 🙂 it's all CC0 creative commons license rights.

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Hey frens how are we with a nouncil website being shipped? Can try whip one up this weekend

dot#3553 asked about the progress of a nouncil website and offered to help create one over the weekend. The conversation shows that several members, including SerNoadz#3802, are interested in collaborating on the project. JoelCares#5898 also expressed support for the idea and suggested using a common tech stack for Nouns. They also mentioned that they can point the domain to the site once it's ready.

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Hey frens!--I run the SharkDAO Twitter account and I'd like to start doing a weekly/biweekly spotlight for Nouns derivatives! --If you'd like to be featured, could you send a short description of your project in a message to the Twitter account? Maybe even what you hope the outcome of the project is or anything else you're passionate about mentioning regarding it!-https://twitter.com/sharkdao?t=40dsqlDHVgQYl2XvCbtjIg&s=09

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Hey frens - not sure who runs @nouncil, but can we get a follow back of @noundles?

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Hey friends! We're helping another prop for you to help review. Those of you that don't know, I've been trying to help some of the strongest proposals from the last Prop House Incubator round to potentially get them on chain for a vote or at least improve the ideas for another PH round in the future. Check it out here: https://discord.com/channels/849745721544146955/980821495704064031/1006054420590632970--If you want to look at the first two, feel free to check it out in the <#980821495704064031>. Thanks in advance for your help!

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Hey guys can the nouncil reach out to <@913511173272522802> and maybe have him on the nouncil chat to discuss their space prop? <@362737590430072862> <@819316859097579530>

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hey guys, can the Nouns purchase NFTs through the Gnosis wallet itself, or does one person have to buy it individually then transfer it to the Gnosis and gets reimbursed afterwards? Thx! Im asking because I can't get my Gnosis to buy/sell on OS via the WalletConnect app, yet Argent's multisig platform works for it. OS enabled smartwallet interaction with their update on Feb20 so it should work.. im just curious if its just me

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Hey guys can you check this and comment ? Updated prop for the manufacturing and logistics portion https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P0BaTyihfV8U4M6zTB3CYWwO1I9gGeqkuyyDv1XNS2s/edit Please take a look and give me any feedback, we should have prototypes ready this week and can start tooling immediately once the section is approved< i firmly believe that these will be an amazing onboarding and showcase tool for nouns and the NOUN brand looking forward to your feedback

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Hey guys looking for a Nounish community to run The Noun Square LITE tomorrow (our weekend format which is basically just playing FOMO live on spaces) Any volunteers?

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Hey homiez- quick question: --I'm pitching my Noun Sounds prop to Lil Nouns tomorrow- should I post this up on Discourse today or should I wait?

It's recommended to post the Noun Sounds proposal on Discourse as soon as possible to gather more feedback before submitting it at a Nouncil meeting.

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Hey, I created a proposal for the Small Grants program in Discourse yesterday. I'm not sure, how I should request the funding exactly...--Can somebody please point me to some docs about the Small Grants program? Thanks!--https://discourse.nouns.wtf/t/small-grants-infinite-auction-to-raise-funds-for-ukraine/775/2

Vladimir Haltakov#4957 asked for documentation on the Small Grants program. wag#5265 suggested posting in <#903077530502828092>. Vladimir Haltakov#4957 thanked wag#5265 for pointing out the channel.

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Hey I have a question, there are 7 no votes on my proposal but only 4 are visible and I can not see one reason, is there a place to see the rest of any?

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Hey I would really love to have some engagement from you guys as i design the package? If you want to have your nouns featured on teh box please send me the highest rez image or link? it is coming together nicley and will be a pretty sweet mix of satin, hi gloss finishes

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Hey! Just confirming are you sure you filled out the Nouncil application form vs the prop 63 form? The forms looked somewhat similar and went out around the same time. Asking because I don't see your application here https://nouncil.wtf/applications. If you want to apply to the Nouncil, please fill out this form: https://www.addressform.io/f/nouncil-apply-for-membership --(for context, I created the Nouncil application page which is why I wanted to double check just in case 🙂 )

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Hey Noucilers I'm trying to raise the profile (get it 😉) of the NounProfiles.-Hope you don't mind me putting you down as judges, I'm planning on posting the shortlist here for an emoji vote on Saturday. Hope thst's cool.-https://twitter.com/nounprofiles/status/1527250213068361729

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Hey Nouncil, anyone know if there is any onboarding for new nouncilors or do we just hop on the call, start learning, and voting? Wasnt sure if I missed anything. Want to do it right.

There is an onboarding document available on Nouncil.wtf: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zEdaZL_oF9-bG7h2mimb8PB2DNMFVoVr24OFF5eoeE4/. You can also just hop on the call, start learning, and voting. Check nouncil.wtf for more information, and feel free to join the regular Nouncil meetings on Wednesdays and Thursdays.

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Hey Nouncilers. --Can you help me solve a mess I made in the course of creating on Nouns? --I transferred my personal artist contract admin to NounsDAO (rather than transferring the token as intended when trying to send Nouns the ERC1155 that I'd committed to deliver). This contract is important and can't easily be recreated. It would make a significant difference to me if I can get it back.--I've had some conversation with Solamander on the dev channel (https://discord.com/channels/849745721544146955/877215225093451776/992486615723286598) and it would require an on-chain proposal to send the the admin back. I asked if they would be willing to support, but so far no responses after a couple of days.--I realise it's a significant pain and apologies for the time wasted. Would you be willing to support on-chain proposal to do transfer this back to my wallet, or have any other suggestions? My only argument why this in the Nouns interest is that I did this in the course of creating for Nouns, and in my efforts to deliver on my proposal commitment. --This is the transaction: https://etherscan.io/tx/0xeb10dd0e19f808361c7e5343f8b40f5863d060987df9ae3223b57356ca5d6c47-Lesson learnt about interacting directly with the contract (I thought I was interacting with the contract in relation to the token, not the whole thing 🤦). --Thank you for any support / thoughts, --In fat fingeredness, Chris

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hey nouncil folk, where can i easily find which nouns are delegated to ya?

You can easily find which nouns are delegated to the Nouncil by following these instructions:--1. Go to https://nouncil.wtf/gov-2. Click on Tools / Delegated Noun Tools-3. Look under Nouns Subgraph--At the time of the conversation, there were 7 Noun votes delegated from 6 different wallets, representing these Nouns: 23, 123, 131, 147, 148, 232, 252.

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Hey nouncil! im curious do we vote on prop house launchpad rounds with the nouncil nouns?

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hey nouncillors, I have a passive nouner friend that would like to delegate their noun's voting to the nouncil. could someone help provide a step by step on how to delegate to the nouncil? can't seem to find it on the main site. cc <@!362737590430072862> ?

To delegate a Noun's voting to the Nouncil, the easiest way is through the NounsToken contract on EtherScan. A tutorial on how to delegate a Noun using EtherScan has been created and can be found in this Google document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MDYV56Lmm_qd18O7hQLYD3gTZoISzm0ZpONGbK7Gp-Q/edit?usp=sharing. This process has been confirmed as correct and the simplest way to do delegation.

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hey nouncillors is the lil dot guy eligible for prop 63?

Yes, the lil dot guy is eligible for prop 63.

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Hey nouncilors, a couple content updates from <@!362737590430072862> and I. --1) I have moved the Nouncil Membership Sheets document from my Nounpunks account into thenouncil@gmail.com account -You can view it here now: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gxXEoxUhHbcRZVSIB3mVbmRp3lfv-clnevIMuqiY2Jo/edit?usp=sharing--2) We will create a new sheet in that document to transparently track any expenses incurred for Nouncil business (gas fees for executing tx, registration fees for ENS etc.) so anyone here can see them. --3) Joel has also moved the Google Doc drive with the Mission Statement in it from his own account into thenouncil Google account, we will use this document to workshop and get feedback on content like this because it's hard to do so in the chat. Link for that document is https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pDzUXL8usqxyFbVnKzC9Q9bGJmbyDQuQYnInS78lAy0/edit?usp=sharing (read only, if you would like to make edits please just ask Joel, <@!908510562047123506> or I and we can invite you as an editor.) Please when editing, copy, paste and suggest edits in a new paragraph so we don't lose versions. --4) I've made a Medium account for us linked to the same gmail for now, no content yet but it is live at: https://medium.com/@nouncil-We've talked about workshopping a short Introduction to the Nouncil to be published on the medium so may be asking you for a short blurb about your project (or we can default to using the one written by <@!860360610066595860> if you prefer), and then we'll make our inaugural tweet from @ nouncil on twitter with a link to the medium to go public.--Any questions let us know!

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hey Nouncilors, any feedback on the Governance Framework document? Anything else we should add or change?

The Nouncil members provided positive feedback on the Governance Framework document, with some suggesting it looks good and is a great foundation for the Nouncil. There was also a discussion about changing the Voting Period to 72 hours, which was generally supported.

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Hey Nouncil, we are getting our Nouns3D game launched soon. Anybody knows anybody legit in game publishing?

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Hey nounishfolk, Does the council want me to put all the interested projects into a shared Sheets file to start things off? I can do so this evening and post a link if so. If voting no, please reply with an alternative method for tracking members and votes.

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Heyo people, did anyone take notes during last Nouncil call?

Here's the APAC notes in case they're helpful. Has both calls we've had so far: https://discord.com/channels/849745721544146955/943943469821476944/984329018704805909

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Hey quick one, is the nouncil currently only men?

The nouncil is not confirmed to be only men. There are female representatives and mods in some Noun-related projects, such as Shosha Green from NounPunks and a female mod in Sidenoun. Additionally, another user is starting her own collection and may join the Nouncil in the future.

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Hey there <@!362737590430072862> —where is the new form for Nouncil applications? The old version is still pinned to this channel. Thanks!!

The new form for Nouncil applications can be found on the top of the nouncil website: https://nouncil.wtf/

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Hey! Where’s that document thing to apply and all other resources? I would love to join nouncil

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Hi <@270147458737242112>, the sound of your voice is so clear in nouncil calls. It is nice to listed you speak haha! What microphone do you use?

Brennen.eth uses the microphone on their MacBook Pro for nouncil calls. The room they work in has a huge carpet and couch that help absorb sounds, contributing to the clarity of their voice.

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Hi <@390924414944018443> —sent you a friend request —wanted to ask about delegate profiles and how to go about that?

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Hi all, is toga also cco? Can I use it in my project?

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hi all nouncillors, I didn't want to spam to the whole channel, and i know I've missed this month's vote, but is this still accurate as to how to apply to nouncil? (from pinned post at the top of this channel) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wGOWfLYYiYK9PrAyH4Q-uAWsiwals818XFocYXAh1pY/edit

Yes, the document linked in the pinned post is still accurate for applying to nouncil. However, they are working on a new system that was recently approved, but it's not up and running yet.

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Hi, could you add members of Nouns Nation to Nouns ecosystem? We don't have many owners yet but we are going to grow quickly. What are the requirements? What info should I provide? Thanks!

To include members of Nouns Nation in the Nouns ecosystem and voting process, it is recommended to send a message to Seneca, who runs Prop.House, and ask to be included in a future round.

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Hi, do we know who has 28 Nouns Delegated to them at this address? 0x4754b7e3DEde42D71d6c92978f25F306176EC7e9

The address 0x4754b7e3DEde42D71d6c92978f25F306176EC7e9 has 28 Nouns delegated to Will.

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Hi, I'd love to run an idea I'm turning into a prop by you guys! Is there time to do that at the end perhaps?

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Hi! I'm thinking on doing for the third time my prop house proposal for a Nouns Typeface... Can anyone help me to improve my presentation . Any ideas how can i improve the proposal? Or should i forget about it. Thank you! (this was my last try https://prop.house/proposal/136)

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Hi, I was wondering why I wasn’t considered in the voting to become a Nouncilor? I think I submitted my application on time but of course I could be wrong 🍰

JoelCares#5898 acknowledged that your email was received on time and said they would get back to you about the issue.

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Hi, I would like to join nouncil. Is there a procedure to fill the application? I am dev who made https://nounsnation.com/ My ultimate goal to fund a video game studio and create Nouns themed game for PC and Nintendo! Thank you for inviting me to Nouncil. Here is an image of some of the NounsNation characters with tools! aka builders!

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Hi Max 👋 -I liked the first proposal fwiw and I’m in support.-I don’t own a noun personally, but agree, more discussion around this is a good idea to gauge interest.-I’ll bring it up on nouncil APAC call today to get more eyes on it.-Have you updated the proposal on discourse? I can only see the original one and the newer google doc.

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Hi nouncil. saw majority leaning against cc0 image bank. -Whats the reason? maybe <@812369752382373890> can make some adjustments to have you in favour?--I personally think that it is a great idea to proliferate cc0 in the NFT space and therefore establishing nouns as THE cc0 ambassador for NFTs and web3. Most of the proposals we see (including mine #69) was a lot of slapping noggles everywhere and funding gets through. I think this is a super nounish proposal. Looking forward to receiving your feedback on it. Maybe you can make a AMA with <@812369752382373890>

The question was about the reasons for the majority leaning against the CC0 image bank proposal. Some reasons mentioned in the conversation include:--1. samellis ⌐◨-◨#4764: Wants to see a better way to let people know that the project was funded by Nouns and suggests adding an art contest to the proposal to bring more awareness to Nouns and the project.-2. maty#0984: Didn't see much overlap with Nouns and wasn't sure if it's the best use of resources.-3. andrewladdusaw#8362: Concerned about the visibility of the site with 30 images among other sites with millions of copyright-free photos and questions why Nouns would take on the project when other sites would host the pictures at no cost.--Some users, like SerNoadz#3802 and Benbodhi#1111, expressed support for the proposal, liking the idea of establishing NounsDAO as a leader in CC0 and appreciating the space art aspect. They also agreed with the idea of running a nounish artwork contest with the images to make the proposal better.

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Hi Nouncil, wondering if there's some sort of Gnosis safe which the Nouncillors control, for the pure purpose of storing unused ETH from props?

There isn't a specific Gnosis safe for storing unused ETH from proposals. However, the GnoSafe multisig users, who are responsible for executing votes for proposals, would put any unused ETH up for a vote on how to use it effectively.

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hi nounish beings —--https://newshades.notion.site/The-ccollective-16bf6925845b452eb30c1fa814966992--Im looking for founding members of the ccollective — a social/curation DAO exclusively collecting works released to the public domain under the cc0 license.--Hit me up if this is something u vibe with ok? <a:noun_heart:907783392182014012>

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Hi, sorry our Noundles member <@!882472517242069053> has unfortunately had a few IRL things to sort over the last week so couldn’t be involved as much. Is it okay to add Noundles to list as we have been keen from the start? We will look to nominate a leadership member to attend if Cappy can’t be active as much

Yes, it is okay to add Noundles to the list. Toady_Hawk#8950 mentioned they will add Noundles to the excel doc, and cappy#0863 also agreed to get Noundles in there.

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Hi. Won the prop to make Nouns shoes. We started to make some concept, how you guys feels about those design?

Benbodhi#1111: Left feedback in <#968155152366338108>--Based on the direct reply, it seems that feedback on the Nouns shoes concept can be found in channel #968155152366338108.

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Hi, you did lots of work on the proposal! Thank you! How about we add some examples of how the nouncil members are planing to spend 1 eth? I can write this part

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Hmmmm I see 191 owners but I’m guessing that includes some Nouner comp glasses? 🤔

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Honestly, this would be fantastic. Would be ever so useful. Appreciate you've got 101 things going on now, but maybe it could be a proposal on <#903077530502828092> to compensate you to put some time aside to give it a crack?

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How are we feeling about Prop 96?

People in the conversation seem to feel positive about Prop 96. Fiveoceans_dev#5450 thinks it's a good idea and could provide valuable experience in collective DAO hedge for future price movements. Benbodhi#1111 also believes it's wise to hedge a small amount and mentions the possibility of more downside, calling $420 support.

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How can I get one of the nouns

You can get one of the nouns by participating in the daily auctions on nouns.wtf.

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How can one apply for nouncil?

To apply for nouncil, visit the top button on this site: https://nouncil.wtf/

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how did you know I'm already wearing my Tux for the nouncil meeting

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How do I get the Nouncillor role? 😄

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how do we feel about prop 65?

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How is SideNouns going

SideNouns is going so-so, and minting has started again after being stopped for a while.

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How many Nouncillors are there now? Do we have a graphic with all of us together?

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How many nouns does Nouncil have delegated now? And where can you see that info so I don’t have to bug anyone?

Nouncil has delegated 13 nouns. You can see this information at http://noun.pics/nouncil.eth?includeDelegates=true.

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how many passive holders are equal to an active contributor interested in shaping the DAO?

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How many ppl from Asia - PAC over here? If there’s over 10 I’m determined to join Nouncil next round 😂

There were 10 or 11 people from Asia-Pacific in the first call and 8-10 people in the last week's call.

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How many total in the nouncil? may need to make us all something 🙂

44 now, soon to be more

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?how many votes per nouncillor?

Each nouncillor has 5 votes.

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How much does it cost to vote with the Noun? ie whats a fair number to ask to float vote costs for a bit?

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How’s everyone doing. Lots of props coming at us lately!

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how were you able to tag @ Nouncillor?

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How will the toys be distributed?

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https://discourse.nouns.wtf/t/nouns-hackathon/26/5 nouncil perspective?

wag#5265 asked for the nouncil's perspective on the Nouns Hackathon idea. JoelCares#5898 expressed support for the idea, stating that they are personally biased towards projects that push tech and art boundaries and are fun to share. They also agreed with the projects listed by devcarrot in the main post.

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I actually want to ask the nouncil. What happens if an outside brand wants to use the nouns brand. Does cc0 still apply in that case?

CC0 applies everywhere - you're welcome to use anything however you please 🙏

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I agree.-Do you have nouns as sharkdao and not personally?

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I agree that channels are sorely needed. I know we’ve mentioned it before and not sure if Nounders were on board, but it’s even more important now that we are 40 (soon to be more.) I like the idea of vote talk and promo/shill as the two new channels. --As for the calls, I think this could be helpful too — would one of the Asia Pacific Nouncillors like to volunteer to run one (maybe earlier in the week so they don’t become as redundant for anyone attending both?) What about a Monday evening EST call which would be daytime for Asia Pacific? I’m thinking of <@202986009216942080> here, not sure if he’d be interested.

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I agree with this —OR gives lots of latitude. However, if you want to limit the rep part to one per project, we could but is that actually written anywhere? And is it necessary? It might be helpful at times to have multiple from a project to avoid burnout but keep representation. So maybe it’s no more than x number from 1 project. And Toady is to me a completely separate case as a proven nounish builder. Yeah we are early and setting precedents but let’s not get too bogged down in rules. I’d be more focused on keeping those who put in the work & add value.

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I agree with you but I feel like that should be the default state in an open protocol. Again, I know it’s semantics. Just feels bad to think the DAO would need to enter a project like this with caveats to make sure nobody makes them look bad you know? When the majority of nounish builders can be fully trusted with that reputation-share imo.

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I am curious as to what <@!362737590430072862> was saying about what qualifies as a Nouns derivative. Like how much of something needs to have noun heads/glasses before it is considered as Nounish? And does level of effort matter? Like would something like Phouns (no hate here, just genuinely curious) get support from the Nounders/Nouners?

There isn't a clear definition of what qualifies as a Nouns derivative. However, the conversation suggests that the community is considering various classification systems and criteria to help determine what makes a project Nounish. The level of effort and the core inspiration of the project may play a role in whether it gets support from the Nounders/Nouners.

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I asked this before in a different area, but didn't get a response. Is it possible for Nouns to move the voting mechanism to another chain and still work together with the entire project? L2 chains have significantly lower fees and make it more affordable to own and use (through delegation) a Noun. Plus, Polygon's new tech seems really interesting from a privacy standpoint. I'm very early in learning about the tech side of Web3, but I need help understanding why something like this would or would not be feasible. https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2022/06/23/matic-jumps-as-polygon-introduces-improved-privacy-for-daos/?utm_source=tldrnewsletter

It is possible to use alternative solutions like Layer 2 chains or gas-free voting via Snapshot for voting mechanisms. However, the elegance of NounsDAO being entirely on Ethereum is considered a feature, as it keeps the project self-contained and reliant only on Ethereum running. Using something other than Ethereum could introduce more risk vectors.

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I believe <@!831921578945675304> is a part of the community here for a while. But like all other projects is an independent derivative, right?

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I believe I saw your name mentioned regarding setting up some of the Nouncil discord stuff - I think? I'm just trying to make sure that everyone who put some work in feels included

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I could help with that and we could gauge interest from the Nouncil at large. Could be a topic for our first Nouncil phone call this Thursday maybe? I used coordinape with another project I was involved with and was pretty impressed by it. If everyone voting is honest it works really well

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I don’t know if it is, but could maybe the <#947209355189702666> be restricted to just members with Nouncil? But obviously leave this <#943943469821476944> chat public

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I dont think i do? So far we did separate vote to see if nouncil wants to sponsor a proposal and then a regular vote. I guess we could in theory make it so we only put up proposals we absolutely believe in and then automatically vote yes, but I can also see a future where we put a lot more proposals on chain just to give them a chance and more exposure.

It seems that the question asked by maty#0984 was whether the Nouncil automatically commits votes for proposals they sponsor. The direct replies from profwerder#8300 and Toady_Hawk#8950 suggest that the Nouncil does not automatically commit votes for sponsored proposals. Instead, they keep the sponsorship and voting processes separate, allowing for additional time for due diligence and flexibility in decision-making.

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I feel like I'm drastically unqualified to make the votes we're being asked to make. The two devs in Prop 106 are being paid almost 100k per month. They spent the last month attempting to solve a potentially existential problem for the community. Is that the right amount? I really have no idea. I'm left to googling 'how much to back-end developers make?' (way less than 500k / year btw).--Soon, we'll have a prop on chain for 2 million dollars for 66 minutes of video. How can we possibly figure out if that's worth it? It could be the largest waste of money in Nouns history that never gets eyeballs beyond this group or it could be a game-changing, IP launching, billion dollar project that puts Nouns on the mainstream map. As much as I'd love to vote for it, I'm not sure I can do it without seeing even 10 seconds of what the final product will actually be. Would Netflix do it this way? Would they demand a trailer first or just write checks and hope for the best? Should I even care how they would do it? --It's not my money so I probably shouldn't care that much, but I'm not sure that we're able to do proper due diligence on any of these things as individuals, and that doesn't sit well with me as the props get larger. Am I the only one thinking this way?

It seems that andrewladdusaw#8362 is concerned about their ability to make informed decisions on proposals, particularly regarding the costs and potential value of projects. The conversation includes various perspectives on how to approach decision-making, with some suggesting that it's essential to trust the people behind the proposals and their experience, while others emphasize the importance of due diligence and learning from past proposals. Ultimately, the conversation acknowledges the challenges of evaluating proposals and the need for continued learning and growth as a community.

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I filled the nouncil form a while back, how many days does it takes tho?

New Members are voted in on the 1st of every month. The voting will start real soon.

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If that's the case, maybe we need to change the description for this channel? It looks like it was set up with extension leaders in mind

Based on the conversation, it seems that the description for the channel may need to be changed, as there is still some confusion and overlap regarding the role of the council. The working definition of the council is a work in progress, and it might be a good idea to clarify the council's role.

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If the Nouncil is happy to vote yes and not abstain, why is that logic not applied to a no vote?

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if we can have a meaning discussion in <#983804053647667210> using **only** GOATCLUB gifs...its a done deal right?

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If you know him, do you think it’s likely he will reappear soon and we should wait? Or remove him for now and reevaluate later? Having members who are completely gone makes our quorum harder to hit for votes and hurts our participation rate.

Weme confirmed that he was fine with being taken off the Nouncil, and he is currently working on a music web3 project.

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If your community was forced to choose between: financial exposure to Nouns DAO with no governance ability, or governance ability with no financial exposure, which would it choose? (long run ideally we can deliver both, but just trying to see where demand is)

If the community was forced to choose between financial exposure to Nouns DAO with no governance ability or governance ability with no financial exposure, the majority of the responses lean towards governance. They believe that governance would help the DAO and the Nouniverse grow, and that financial exposure would come later on. However, some members mention that in the early stages, financial need might come first, and as resources grow, the focus could shift towards governance.

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I have been thinking of an idea as the Nouncil and Nouns grow.--Sometimes I feel like it's too hard to keep up with everything, but at the same time, it's my favourite place to hang and I enjoy following all the discussions.--The idea is to have a team of 4 people on 6 hours shifts logging/taking notes and posting a summary at the end of their shift. --So, a #summary channel where you would check what happened in all the channels with timestamps and links to some of the best discussions.-We could possibly expand to derivatives/extensions as well.--This is a method used by big reality TV shows like Big Brother so that editors don't have to watch everything.--Anyway, I would love to hear your thoughts.-Good idea? Bad idea?

Yes, other people have contributed to the Nouncillor chest. For example, user <@411952680244740096> has delegated multiple Nouns to the Nouncil, giving the Nouncil a voice in voting on Nouns proposals.

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I havent voted Y/N, can still potentially vote Y, just wanted to hear from other Nouncillors as well who voted Yes, and if so why?

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I just realized the Nouns official 1st bday is during the LA event. Who's helping me throw a banger bday party in LA for Nouns?!! IM SO SERIOUS BUD LIGHT WYA. I lived in dtown LA for years, who am I reconnecting with 08/03 - 08/09 with the Bday party on 08/08? Epic silverlake/echo park house bday party for Nouners orrrrrr.....🙃 🎂 🎉

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I like consolidating the vote chat. On the other, doesn’t the chat that is directly connected in voice disappears after correct? So everyone should just be make aware of that so if they want it to appear after they should use regular Nouncil chat.

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I like having this as a policy —as long as it’s a member of the project, I think a sub/proxy is a great option to ensure representation even if the orig nouncilor is unavailable. If it’s a 1 for 1 switch or temporary proxy, I don’t think we need a vote. BUT we may want some kind of “policy” about it that we do vote on maybe?

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i like this idea: if somebody talks for more than 60 seconds without getting any laughs, they get pulled... just like during open mic nights at your local comedy club 😉 that's still nounish, right? 🤔

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I’m for capping it as well, and thought 100 might be an arbitrary but logical spot. I don’t think it should necessarily be a competition though, but maybe after that we just have Nouncil Part Deux? Will put this on the agenda for Thursday for sure.

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I'm looking for info to apply to join nouncil as a developer. I believe there is a monthly application process, does anyone know how to apply for this?

To apply to join the nouncil as a developer, you can visit the Nouncil website at https://nouncil.wtf/ and click on the Apply For Membership button at the top for more details on the application process.

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I'm on the website updating the Nouncillor list, but there seems to be a couple of discrepencies. Does anyone know how I can get a list of everyone with the Nouncillor tag on Discord? I'm thinking that might be the most accurate list available. <@362737590430072862> or <@357667384342872074>?

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IMO there is a bit of vague overlap in those options. ie derivative project leaders are also nounish community leaders and builders?

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imo there would be a fair amount of nouners that would enthusiastically vote for a purely noadz film to be made. why not? bc it’s not strictly about nouns only? but it still expands the nouns universe and would get more ppl excited about nouns and cc0. you should definitely put a proposal forward!

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implementation might be a bit janky to start, but thinking we might be able to do a rough version if the current nouncil record of votes spreadsheet can expose an API?

The question about whether the current nouncil record of votes spreadsheet can expose an API was answered by JoelCares#5898. They mentioned that it's probably not worthwhile to connect to the spreadsheet data, as the voting system will be changing soon. Instead, they suggested checking out Nerman voting in another Discord server and mentioned that there will be a public API to access the data for building interesting things.

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I’m very eager to host someone from the Nouns team on a twitter space interview. Do you all do that?

There is no Nouns team. There are Nounders, who originally came up with the entire experiment and formed the DAO, maybe that's who you're targeting. Anyone is able to participate in the evolution of the DAO.

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INFORMAL NOUNCIL QUESTION --Do you support changing the Voting Period to 72 hours?

Yes, the consensus in the conversation supports changing the Voting Period to 72 hours.

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in order to test the veto?

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In some ways public voting might be preferable as it should make it less likely people will play favorites or otherwise abuse their vote?

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Interesting! Have to be honest —I saw Sublime and thought “maybe they’ll do a Nounish version of Santeria? Or “Nouns are what I got” but then quickly realized it was not the band. Here’s the Discourse link for easier viewing Nouncillors. --https://discourse.nouns.wtf/t/mooonbeans-web3-meets-fmcg-a-collaboration-proposal-between-nouns-and-sublime/1239

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In the toy industry companies often solicit inventor concepts for which the inventor of the idea , if it goes into production gets a royalty but does not need to be involved or can help as a consultant. I have been wondering if something like this can be done on chain? these are usually fairly small .03-.12% depending on project but many people have made a comfortable life doing nothing but coming up with new ideas. This is something that may be worth considering in the future What do you think <@816727974485164062> <@813421644298321961> ? just a thought on how to onboard more creatives

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intuitively i would guess that if i sold 10,000 NFTS, i would be able to purchase a noun with the proceeds. what is the main reason these projects don't have enough capital?

The main reason these projects don't have enough capital to purchase a noun with the proceeds from selling NFTs is a combination of factors, including low mint prices, small project sizes, and local jurisdiction issues such as taxes on minting and withdrawing ETH. Additionally, some projects may need to use their working capital for other purposes, such as building their team, creating educational content, or developing new collections.

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I only work with our molds that we design, maintain and debug as needed. Taking on someone’s tooling is not something I would do, it is like buying a house sight unseen. Which tooling are we talking about? You have to understand that there is no market for any of this, so anything created is used as a marketing and engagement/onboarding gimmick. So there has to be a strategy to distribute as well as the understanding that these may need to be given Away and not sold and that builders making things may never reach a level of sustainability with their project till there is mass adoption in the form of tv shows and an NFL team or fashion house and it is up to all of us, nouners and builders to make that work

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I posted my feedback in <#943943469821476944>, Nouncillors will see it, but I don't think it's going to spark convo. Why not share this convo with Nouns who are also voting? Just seeing maty's post, I imagine that'll spark convo, engage with nouners, nouncil, and the prop submitter

There isn't a direct answer to the question in the provided conversation context.

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i renamed the channel. will add the role but preference would be to keep all activity in one channel for now. is there a way to vote without a second channel?

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IRL Nouns? Standing Nouns? Busy Nouns? Nouns Around Town?

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Is anyone against opening memberships up for another week? As long as the applicant is a building a unique Nounish project or representing a unique Nounish community they are allowed in.--I imagine in the future we have a defined applicant criteria, and we're always welcoming new members who fit that criteria.

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Is anyone on Nouncil located in New Orleans? Tag me if so!

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Is Florinouns a group of Nouns from Florida?

Florinouns is a group of Florida-themed Nouns created by profwerder and their students at Florida Gulf Coast University.

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i should probably give less options and do it vote A 1-3 props, B 4-6props C 7-10 ? maybe it is clearer this way?

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is it cool if we get <@!719704406886580266> on this list? he was the designer of https://www.nouns.domains/ but was listed as a secondary on the member sheet. did not realize he was not being ping-ed. 🙏

Yes, it is cool to get <@!719704406886580266> on the list.

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is it nounish?

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Is it official? Am I a Nouncilor?🤔

Yes, it is official. You are a Nouncilor. Toady_Hawk#8950 said, Welcome 🙂 and mentioned making an announcement on Twitter and asking admins to add your roles.

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Is it okay to ask Nouncil members to share a twitter post about the project that proliferates Nouns culture? <:noun_unicorn:902918077623189505>

Yes, it is okay to ask Nouncil members to share a Twitter post about the project that proliferates Nouns culture. Toady_Hawk#8950 suggests tagging @nouncil and @nermanbot on Twitter to get two retweets immediately, and hopefully, the rest of the Nouncil members can help too when they see it.

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Is it on discourse?

Yes, the proposal is on discourse. Here is the link: https://discourse.nouns.wtf/t/mooonbeans-web3-meets-fmcg-a-collaboration-proposal-between-nouns-and-sublime/1239

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Is it possible for me to join as a voter-only nouner? My small contribution in Q1 has been convincing a friend to delegate to the nouncil. My main motivation of wanting to join the round as a voter is simply to experience Coordinape in a real world situation and see/feel how it works since it's proposed as a tool for other nounish retroactive reward systems as well.

Yes, it is possible to join as a voter-only nouner. Toady_Hawk#8950 agreed to add the user as a voter and asked for their preferred wallet address.

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is nouncil interested in being funded for operations/ to experiment w allocation? is there a sense it might be put to good use or better off waiting?

Yes, the Nouncil seems interested in being funded for operations and experimenting with allocation. JoelCares#5898 mentioned that they are open to thoughts on how to structure the conversation around this topic.

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is nouncil.wtf down for anyone else?

Yes, nouncil.wtf is down for some users. There is an alternative site at https://nouncil.xyz.

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Is nounify bot broken?

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Is Noun Sounds already rebranding as Beet Beats?

No, Noun Sounds is not rebranding as Beet Beats. Beet Beats is SuperTightWoody's Nouns persona.

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is possibly suggestive of a separate server? keeping this room for public discussion/ coordinating with nouners / prospective members and maybe having a separate shadowy catacomb that you/council controls, if desired? maybe can still use this room for pings etc

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i started http://www.instagram.com/thecryptograph in 2017 and since then ive paid someone to run it - do you think we could turn this page / rebrand into a noun news account or something? begin creating real nounish content

It seems that the question about turning the Instagram page into a Noun news account or creating Nounish content received a positive response. SerNoadz#3802 said it would be a cool experiment, and JoelCares#5898 suggested a visual rebrand or transforming it into a Nounish News brand. Doowop#5343 also proposed focusing on Nouns and CC0 content with short video news reports and daily updates from ambassadors.

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Is the nouncil rep file accessible? Need to add a representative for lil nouns

Yes, the nouncil rep file is accessible. To gain edit access, you need to DM Toady_Hawk#8950 with your email.

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Is there an eth glasses asset anywhere <@708131862731554917> ? I love those!

There are eth glasses assets available, with eyes and without. However, you might have to do a bit of tidying, and the eyes are from a nounpunk, so they are a bit different than regular noun eyes.

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Is there an explainer video for Nouns? Like a simple minute long vid or anything? Just wondering 💭

There isn't an explainer video for Nouns yet, but there is a discourse post about creating one: https://discourse.nouns.wtf/t/proposal-create-wtf-are-nouns-animated-video/1103. Additionally, a course is being worked on to help people get introduced and deeply involved in the Nouniverse, with mockups expected in the next couple of weeks.

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is there any interest in other collaborative initiatives other than using noun for voting/props?

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Is there a particular reason why the Nouncil abstains instead of voting no?

The Nouncil generally tries to encourage each other not to abstain on proposals unless there is a conflict of interest. However, on some proposals, Nouncillors may feel the issue is so nuanced that it is very difficult to vote one way or the other with confidence. In such cases, abstaining may be seen as a more appropriate choice.

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Is there a poll? Id nominate #29 (if there are no opinions)

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Is there a regular day/time for Nouncil call? Just want to try to block it on my calendar. And I just remembered that I owe you a bio

The regular day and time for the Nouncil call is Thursdays at 10am EST, and it usually lasts for about 1.5 hours.

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is there a schedule w open nouner/nouncil calls?

There is no fixed schedule for open nouner/nouncil calls. However, you can subscribe to the Nouns Calendar to stay updated on upcoming events and calls: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/u/2?cid=Y18ydDNtNXJ0MDA3c29ydmljaGoxOTg1cHJmY0Bncm91cC5jYWxlbmRhci5nb29nbGUuY29t

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is there a way to scope the @ permission only to others with the same role?

No, there is no way to scope the @ permission only to others with the same role. If you enable a specific role to notify a certain role in a channel, they will also have the ability to @ everyone, which is not ideal.

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Is there a way to see who created the traits for Nouns? How do I know if a trait is made by Gremplin or Timpers for example.

There isn't a complete list of who created the traits for Nouns, but Timpers shared some nouns he made in the #931247256470953994 channel some time ago. Additionally, you can find at least one example of a trait made by Gremplin in this link: https://discord.com/channels/849745721544146955/855538581434007635/856610857240887347.

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Is there sort of a reservation system for NNS names?

Yes, there is a reservation system for NNS names. To avoid speculation, there will be a grace reservation period to give .eth holders the possibility to get their NNS counterpart. The official date for reservations will be announced in the coming days.

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is the sentiment that the coordinape round would be positive-sum for nouns culture given that everyone's allocation choices will be visible ? do we think overall happiness & effort is likely to increase bc more ppl will receive compensation or decrease when everyone sees out their efforts have been valuated by their friends realtive to their other friends?

It is believed that the Coordinape round could be positive-sum for Nouns culture, as it might capture an accurate picture of who is contributing, provided everyone logs on and fills out what they're working on each week. Public voting might be preferable, as it could make it less likely for people to play favorites or abuse their vote. Overall happiness and effort might increase as more people receive compensation, but it's not guaranteed.

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Is this a nouns only call? Are there public calls? Just doing some research 🙂

This weekly call is open to Nouncillors and Nouners. All our discussion in this channel is public though-- we don't have a private discussion channel.

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Is voting open 48 hours starting from the proposal submission or from when it starts in here? I am assuming that proposals are open for a bit longer as voting will need to be concluded and delegated within that time period.

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It could be that maybe up until you’re rewarded a noun you work towards one, then after you agree what you want to be paid in? idk

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I tend to agree with <@!910446457004359680> that the council should be one vote per project if the idea is to represent different Nounish communities. I bet we would be blown away anyway to find out how much holder overlap all of our communities have (I bet it’s a lot, might be a fun experiment just to see!)--One challenge with the above plan though is this question: should a single individual who is deemed to be a Nounish Contributor (as per option B in <@!362737590430072862> Poll) have the same vote as a project with 100 holders, or a project with 5000 holders? I wonder if those individual contributors could have their voice heard as members of any one of the many awesome projects in this channel, many with very accessible floors. All just topics for discussion, I do think inclusivity is important but so is the outward appearance of fairness.

There is no consensus on whether the council should be one vote per project or if individual contributors should have the same vote as a project with many holders. The discussion revolves around what the council is trying to represent and how to balance the voices of active contributors and passive holders. No definitive answer has been reached yet.

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I think adding more members is a good idea longterm, but I also think it’s important to be able to focus on the work we need to do without stopping every day to bring new folks up to speed. Consider that each time we add members, <@!813421644298321961> needs to add roles for them, and we need to add them to the tagging comment etc. -- Why don’t we open up to new applications for two more days until the end of the week. Everyone will have the chance to @ anyone they feel was missed. And then we can plow forward with our work. --After Friday, we need to come up with Rules we can all agree on for addition of new members. --I might suggest that after that, new members can be nominated by any member of the group, and maybe once a month we confirm them by a majority of votes?--These are just suggestions, open to feedback from the Nouncil.

Toady_Hawk#8950 suggests opening up new applications for two more days until the end of the week, allowing everyone to @ anyone they feel was missed. After Friday, they propose coming up with rules for the addition of new members. One suggestion is that new members can be nominated by any member of the group, and maybe once a month, they can be confirmed by a majority of votes.

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I think I have the nouns assets resized in a file. Let me see if I find it, I’ll clean it up and send and maybe we can add to Nouns Center.

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I think it would be cool if we could mint our Nouncil PFPs how do we start a collection where we do this but instead of purchasing with money it's purchased with participation?

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I think NounPunks can cast a vote in prophouse? In the FAQ, it is said that we can request to be included in voting process.

NounPunks can cast a vote in Prop.House. In the past two weeks, they trialed allowing the NounPunks community to vote alongside Nouners. Next week, NounCats are being added, and more extension communities are expected to be added as time goes on. To be included in a future round, it is best to send a message to Seneca and ask.

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i think thats what they call the glasses of nouns right?

Yes, the glasses of Nouns are called noggles.

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I think we need to have this convo, we're kind of figuring things out as we go. Is there a drastic need to halt this vote and have the conversation now? Skimming through the applicants I think I'm fine with just letting them all in. Some reasons I would say no:-- - project already has another rep- - project isn't sufficiently nounish (maybe it only has one pair of glasses in the Whole thing)- - possibly at some point we define a rate, maybe 10 new Nouncillors/month or something, could be more, could be less, and select that many applicants

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I think we should focus during nouncil calls on:-1) hear from project builder-2) make suggestions-3) share our opinions--However, we should not use nouncil calls to try to align our votes.-Imho, every nouncilor should cast their vote independently.--Maybe we can limit discussions to 1h/ items on agenda +- 5 minutes??

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It looks like our votes for Prop 120 were entered as 'for' rather than 'against'. Any way to change that after the fact? It won't change the outcome from the looks of it either way, so it should be fine if not.

There is no way to change the vote after the fact, as once it's on the blockchain, it's there for good. The Nouncil voted against the transaction, but a FOR transaction was mistakenly queued. The Gnosis Safe crew will likely add another step of process to ensure the vote is double/triple checked in the future.

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I totally agree with this sentiment - In my mind I think to myself if I expose/encourage my holders to become more active in the nouncil dealings what can that do for the NounsDao as a whole? What sort of interest can this tap into and what kind of unique proposals/ideas can stem from this?--This is truly exponential participation in my opinion!

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i've been away for the last several days, haven't checked up on the doings here... how are all my nounish people feeling?

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I’ve planned to change my current web1 alias from 20 yrs back to supernoun.eth soon as I’m now fully transitioning to web3. My idea is to keep educating ppl about nounish culture in all forms but do it in a characterisitc way. I see this kind of approach could and would support the mission of binding the extended nounish families together in the long run. Thoughts? ☺️

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I voted B but just to throw it out there, how do we quantify that valuable contribution? By vote?

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I want to make nouns more popular in germany 🇩🇪 or in the XRPL, is something possible to work together with the dao or leaders?

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I was wondering about that. Do you see the nouncil scaling indefinitely? I would feel better we would cap the amount of nouncillor, and then have a mechanism to make sure you deserve that spot. for example, the 20 best voters, or attendance to weekly calls.

Toady_Hawk#8950 and cdt#3727 both shared their thoughts on the idea of capping the number of nouncillors. Toady_Hawk#8950 suggested capping it at 100 and possibly creating a Nouncil Part Deux. Cdt#3727 expressed that they don't like the idea of capping because it enacts a rule and could make people feel excluded. They believe that the experiment should play out for now and that the focus should be on the current projects and ensuring the Nouncil functions effectively.

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I would be against this for 2 reasons. 1, I’m on OS shared contract so wouldn’t be able to vote 😅-2 - larger collections will naturally have more votes. Should we just be on equal footing, with 1 vote per derivative collection instead?

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I would like to add a topic to the agenda. What can we do to increase a number of delegated votes to Nouncil and what should we do to prevent loss of delegated votes.

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I would like us to consider putting <@813140072609218573>'s 2nd phase proposal up for a vote to see if Nouncil would put it on chain for him. IMO it's a great prop with very professional work and the idea has been interrogated thoroughly by all the many major players on Discourse. How would we go about that <@362737590430072862> and others?

The second phase proposal for the manufacturing and logistics portion can be found in the updated document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P0BaTyihfV8U4M6zTB3CYWwO1I9gGeqkuyyDv1XNS2s/edit. The ask is for $108k to tool, manufacture, and deliver 10k figures, with 1k of each style.

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I would love to join weekly call as well. Is it going to be here on Discord # voice nouncil channel? I don't see this channel

Yes, the weekly call will be on Discord, but the specific channel was not mentioned in the provided context. However, fiveoceans_dev was given access to the meeting by Toady_Hawk, so they should be able to find the channel once they have the appropriate role.

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I would love to vote yes on the Mad Happy prop but there are a lot of questions that need to be answered before hand about the design direction. What they think the noun traits they would add are (they do not have any nounish characters or pixel work in their portfolio) and a clear marketing direction about where these will be displayed, and more importantly than how they will be sold. How many pieces in the collection? is it just a Tshirt? How many items in the collection? Men women, ? any other goods? they want to display Salvinos glasses but did they talk to Salviino? How will they be displayed? this is a 2-5 days worth of work for any small operator and these guys are a big team asking for a lot of money. We want these in their main store and at the lakers games not just in their online shop. which is the lowest hanging fruit. I love their energy and presentation but nothing in their entire brand history tells us what this could look like and It would be an easier pass if they came back with some look book or some quick mock up visuals.

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I wrote this a while ago, thought it could perhaps help a bit 😊 --What does it mean to be Nounish?--⌐◨-◨ Nounish is to be free, to carve your own path, make your own rules.-⌐◨-◨ Nounish is to have fun, to be colourful, different, and disruptive.-⌐◨-◨ Nounish is to be quirky and trendy at the same time.-⌐◨-◨ Nounish is all inclusive and 100% collaborative.

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Just brainstorming ideas for the @nouncil twitter. I think everyone is pretty busy so it’s a pipe dream to try and get paragraphs from everybody to do a Medium post about us right away But I had the thought that I can do a profile of a member every day for the next 24 days, what do you think?

It seems that the community is supportive of Toady_Hawk's idea to do a profile of a Nouncil member every day for the next 24 days. They received positive feedback from waterdrops.#8429 and JoelCares#5898, and Toady_Hawk has already started collecting paragraphs from members who want to be featured.

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Just on prop 75 - does the Dao receive any % of the apparel sales?

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Just to be sure, just 1 vote per Nouncillor and other votes won’t be counted?

Nouncilors can vote on their top 3, and any non-Nouncillor votes will be discounted.

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just wondering, why you guys decided to not open sourcing it from day 1? Is it because it would take the team too much time to merge PRs on unstable codebase?

The question about why the Nouns DAO project was not open-sourced from day one was answered by cdt#3727. They mentioned that they were not there from the very beginning, but their assumption was that it was just a proof of concept. The project needed lots of refactoring before it was feature-ready for the public, and there were many nice-to-have things that needed to be in place before Nouns was comfortable putting it out for the world.

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Jw is there any reason why prop 188 has not been voted on?

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keep it big, but understand it's going to be a pain, we're replicating a large DAO structure, and it's an experiment to try and learn lessons (and document them) faster than the DAO can

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like a proposal I have is ready but obv I delegated my noun, do I undelegate and put it up and then redelegate?

Yes, you can undelegate and put your proposal up at any time. However, you can also submit a proposal here for discussion, work through Nouncil notes, and then put up a vote that says Does Nouncil want to put this on-chain. In the future, Nouncil needs to systemize that a bit more, but that's the general process. Mostly it just needs to pass a Nouncil vote that confirms they want to put it on chain.

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like by noun # ?

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link to John Hamon X Nouns proposal? 👀

The link to the John Hamon X Nouns proposal is: https://discourse.nouns.wtf/t/john-hamon-x-nouns/1731/11

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Little question: when does the Nouncil votes?

The Nouncil votes within a 60-hour window using Discord emoji reacts before the 3-day on-chain voting window closes. They usually create the votes in the Nouncil channel as soon as a proposal goes on-chain.

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Looks good Joel! Do you think it would sit better with the DAO if we shared the guidelines of how the 1 ETH should/should NOT be used in the actual proposal? Just posing the question.

Yes, JoelCares#5898 agreed that it would be better to include guidelines on how the 1 ETH should/should not be used in the actual proposal. He mentioned that he made a note of this during the call but forgot to add it, and he will add a few NoNos to the proposal.

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Love it Sam.-First thoughts:-- Needs TL;DR - just a quick paragraph summary at the top.-- Switch order of sections: “Benefits the The DAO” before “Who Are The Creatives”-- Is there a cap on proposal ask? I think I’ve read 600eth max but may be wrong. And to this point, maybe it's worth thinking about breaking it down into 2 stages. However, I'd love to see it go ahead as is!

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maybe any nouncillor can propose?

Yes, any nouncillor can propose a vote, and possibly a certain number need to second the motion. This topic will be discussed in the Nouncil call on Thursday.

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maybe establish consensus on desired voting mechanics/distribution and degree of decentralization?

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Maybe in lil nouns discourse?

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Maybe? I wonder how much people would appreciate a working but non-voting role...--In the short term, the only thing we need to answer is confirmation of the final voting list, and then how we're handling the delegated Noun.--Option 1: We set up a multisig right now-Option 2: the Noun is delegated to a trusted members wallet who acts on behalf of the Nouncil.

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maybe lil nouns has achieved a level of success that should be rewarded with a noun? but I don't know

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Maybe opening the SVG in photoshop and exporting as jpeg would work right?

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Maybe we can make a shield out of <@!542075703634690069>'s nouneverse graph?

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Maybe we stick to bootstrap so that we can quickly copy nounish design components?

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Might be good to reiterate what is the nouncil function and mission. I would like to add this to this week calls. What are our 10 commandments for example? How do we evaluate nouncillors contribution? How many seats should we have and how to define this number?

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Might be too late for this but is having the nouns eSports jersey as one of the bodies a possibility?

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Mmmmm do I have to go through all the existing nouns to get to the ones I want or am I missing something? lol

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Nerman wrote his own proposal?

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new applicant vote starts on first? week before and _they_ start on the first?

Yes, new applicant voting starts on the first, and applications are open until the 30th at 11:59 pm.

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New here and looking for some guidance, guessed you nouncilers might be the people. Made a thing, which I'm just sharing on <#855538581434007635> at the moment, don't want to piss people off, but do want some traction if it's fun. Shall I just keep doing what I'm doing, or do something different?

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next question: would your community members be open to dilution if it let your project acquire a noun?

The community members seem to be open to dilution if it allows their project to acquire a noun. Toady_Hawk#8950 mentioned that many community members have talked about hoping the project could buy a noun, and they would be open to the idea of dilution, with the main challenge being the tokenization of their project to allow for dilution.

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Nice! These I assume? http://noun.pics/nouncil.eth?includeDelegates=true

Yes, those are the ones!

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nope, and also is there any reason to include #4? I think the question is really: Is this a Community Leader thing, representing Nounish Communitys. Or is this a Builder things, bringing together voices of people building in the Nouns and Nounish community. And I think Nounish Leaders / reps count as builders.

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notion form?

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Not saying they should, but what’s the proliferation of nouns by giving them a noun?

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not sure i have any moderator permissions (semi discord-incompetent 😅 )/ maybe <@!813421644298321961> or another Nounder can do ?

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Not sure what kind of precedent it sets? Could bring major attention and proposals if broader audience knew the Dao was handing out nouns.

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Nouncil Agora would be a wonderful thing 🙏 It's probably not worthwhile to connect to the spreadsheet data though, as we'll be changing up how voting works pretty soon.--Check this out, Nerman voting is functioning in this Discord: https://discord.gg/SXeyuMbkr8--We'll have a public API to access the data and you could definitely build interesting things with that.

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Nouncil! --Are you following the conversation in <#873197966373052426>? I wanted to bring up a specific point here, because as BUIDLers this is probably a question we can answer.--QUESTION-If you're working on a Nouns DAO project and being compensated would you have any interest in being compensated with some kind of $NOUN fractional token with connection to governance, possibly something that eventually adds up to a full Noun. Or would you prefer to always be paid the same amount in ETH?

Based on the direct reply from sidenoun#1868, there is no clear consensus on whether Nouns DAO project contributors would prefer to be compensated with a $NOUN fractional token or ETH. However, sidenoun#1868 suggests that a split between the two might be a good idea, and that motivation to continue working on the project after receiving a Noun could be a concern. They also mention the possibility of working towards a Noun until one is rewarded, and then deciding on the preferred form of payment afterward.

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@nouncil can we token gate write access to this server pls?

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Nouncil-cowboys or Nouncil-police?

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nouncillors?

Nouncillors are Noun builders and community leaders/reps who coordinate with Nouns DAO. The Nouns Council is a place for these nouncillors to work together and vote with Nouns DAO.

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Nouncil Proposal #1--Are we ready to go on chain with this? Final notes welcome, otherwise I'm going to try and put this on chain. I removed the gallery section, as per meeting notes, and updated some Community Grants eligibility criteria / period data.--https://hackmd.io/tm6WjUwmT-6tFyiNtZ55jQ

Yes, the Nouncil Proposal #1 is ready to go on chain. Final notes have been addressed, the gallery section was removed, and some Community Grants eligibility criteria and period data were updated.

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Nouncil votes will be there also?

Yes, Nouncil votes will be there also.

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nouncil.wtf still down?

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Nouns3D has a really great story. Super early and building non-stop. Have you done any Spaces about the project?

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Nouns.center but for Nouncil? Sounds dope

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Nouns Dao: Proposal 43 - Refill Retroactive Funding and Small Grants Pool--This is an obvious yes from me, Small Grants has been capturing a lot of incoming people and guiding them into funding. This is becoming an essential part of the Nouns ecosystem. But that being said, this doubles the budget, I still think public discussion is helpful. Some thoughts from me:-- - would love if completed Small Grants projects had summary reports, sharable press release links with pictures of completed projects.- - From your last ETH refill what were the success stories?- - are there any projects that weren't successful that lessons have been learned from?- - is there a general mandate being developed? a set of criteria being developed for evaluating proposals?

From your last ETH refill what were the success stories?--Answer: Luxury sunglasses & FUNctional glasses are great examples of success stories from the last ETH refill.--Are there any projects that weren't successful that lessons have been learned from?--No answer located.--Is there a general mandate being developed? a set of criteria being developed for evaluating proposals?--No answer located.

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Now that is much more Nounish. What’s the merch quality specs

The merch quality specs were not directly provided in the conversation. However, rarityjan#6920 mentioned that the merch would be cut-and-sew, not ordinary blanks, and would have a high-end quality similar to brands like Fear of God.

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Now that the Twitter is live and the medium is live, but both are pretty empty, we would like to do a simple Medium post introducing everybody on the council. Would it be possible for each of you to send me a quick DM with a brief paragraph about who you are and what you do / what your project does? Alternatively, if you were profiled in The <@!860360610066595860> piece and you are happy to go with that description, just DM me to that effect and I will grab it. --I can put this together pretty quickly if you all send me something, and then I will be able to pin a tweet on Nouncil twitter telling everyone who’s involved. 🙏

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Now would be a good time to reflect on adding new members. We closed sign ups so we could move forward with the group at hand and come to a consensus on what the criteria for membership should be. Is there a reason to limit growth? Personally I feel like all people present and building in Nouns are still welcome and I'd be ok with this group getting pretty large.

The question about limiting growth and adding new members was addressed in the conversation. The consensus was to focus on the work at hand and set up the Nouncil before adding more members. It was suggested to set a date 30 days from now to add new voting members and continue doing that every month. In the meantime, people can still join the channel and participate in discussions without having a Discord role.

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obviously I'm biased, but I feel like there's only a technical distinction between NounsTown.shop and other Nounish extension NFT projects. Both examples create artwork that is a derivative of Nouns and market that through various commerce platforms (ecommerce shop or NFT marketplace, respectively) and build and nurture community on social media or Discord. Admittedly the ecomm example is Web2, but should that be a constraint?

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oh damn, the ones putting noggles on don;t work in discord, but do on twitter. Hang on I'll edit.

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Oh really, didn't know. Got a link to check it out? I think by having a dedicated resource and a point of contact we well know, especially like <@!400168997779275778> and Blequity just gives us room to many upcoming things (specific for Nouns) like implementing extensions in the dedicated marketplace

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Okay, based on your last note, I thought it‘d be interesting to see an average ICE score per prop but that would require some type of gated one-time-voting form. I‘m happy to adopt it and share my scores if that‘s beneficial?

Based on the context, Benjamin's question about adopting the ICE score and sharing it was answered by mintface.eth#6166, who said that using ICE to help choose top props works without changing the current voting form. It would be good to see props that scored high in one area but didn't get a vote and feed them into the system for refining and resubmitting.

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ok clearly a lot happened while I was away for a few days... I thought the origin of the Nouns Council (as suggested by <@!813421644298321961> on twitter) was to unify Nouns-variant projects?

Yes, the origin of the Nouns Council was to unify Nouns-variant projects. The conversation suggests that the Nouncil aims to include Nounish builders and community leaders, with a focus on inclusion and collaboration. The Nouncil is open to all those present in the conversation who are building something Nounish, and new admissions will be handled on a case-by-case basis.

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Ok - going to try and provide some feedback too <@!699623596330319893>.-- - The furniture is awesome. I think if you were to do a pilot pilot project of just Nouns Furniture (with CC0 plans released online!) you would have success.-- - Some revenues will flow back to Nouns DAO Personally I would focus less on this. It's not something that the DAO has done before, and while people are open to it, it's very unknown territory. Unless a Nouner steps in with enthusiasm and direction regarding returning revenue to the DAO, I consider this a big unknown. Nouners reading this, feel free to jump in and disagree.-- - that being said From here we can waterfall revenues back into Nouns DAO. this is a strong statement. And possibly something worth considering for the DAO. But also - it's new territory and I imagine you encountering friction here.-- - This proposal is focused on the AirBNB as a business. Do you think branding an AirBNB with Nouns will increase the price you are able to charge? Would it be a strong business choice even without DAO funding?-- - The Doodles example is at an SXSW event. I would 100% go to a Nouns tent at SXSW, and I imagine it was free for pass holders anyways. At the moment I don't imagine myself drawn to staying at a Nouns AirBNB.-- - the acrylic figures seem expensive-- - the AirBnb Shopping Lis and the property holding costs... if Nouns is getting a stake in the business, and revenue, these expenses make sense. But, unless Nouns is fully on board with that aspect, these costs don't fit--I don't think this proposal would pass an on-chain vote. We could do an informal Nouncil poll if you need to see it. --But! Your furniture is awesome. You have great energy, and have clearly put a lot of thought into this. I would propose starting with the clearest, most obvious and excellent part of the project: Nouns custom furniture & wall art. You could probably get that supported right now, and can keep developing your ideas and talking with Nouners to try and get a big picture project approved.

It is suggested that instead of focusing on the Nouns-themed Airbnb as a whole, the proposer should start with the clearest and most obvious part of the project: Nouns custom furniture & wall art. This could potentially be supported right now, and the proposer can keep developing their ideas and talking with Nouners to try and get a bigger picture project approved.

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Ok I lied and just read it now…--I vote yes, but I’d like to better understand the prioritization of the projects Brian proposes to work on. For example, in my mind, localizing nouns.wtf could be one of the highest impact activities for the proliferation of nouns, so I’d love to see a priority there… and security seems pretty important, as well… --Sidenote: I’m curious about content creation on Nouns.wtf and where that could fit. <@!860360610066595860> had previously raised the issue of content / SEO. Could the nouncil create a proposal to create valuable nouns / nft / dao-focused content that could pull traffic to nouns.wtf and increase the visibility and reach of the project?

The idea of content creation on Nouns.wtf and focusing on SEO was positively received. JoelCares#5898 added the idea to the list, and 0xigami#0001 expressed their support for organic search content and offered their expertise in the area if needed.

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One possibility is kind of like Lorax who speaks for the trees- nouncil speaks for non/partial nounders/nouners and community projects?

The Nounish Council is a place for various options, such as derivative project leaders, nounish community leaders, valued Nouns builders, representatives of Nounish communities, noun builders and community leaders, or anyone who builds and/or represents, proliferates, or otherwise actively supports Nouns. The exact definition of membership is still being discussed and will be determined through a vote.

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Only 121 have sold? I’m still waiting on mine… Would be interested to know if the tooling/moulds are cc0 since they were funded by the DAO. Could open up some opportunities? <@813140072609218573>

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On prop 45: I have no idea on the work that goes in to maintain nouns.wtf however 62 eth seems like a lot? Would be great to see if there were other contenders for a ‘fresh eyes’ approach?

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Oof! How does one get a Noun-man pfp 😉

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Ooo nounie academy where lil nouns go to school and play?

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Or you going to sign in with the wallet and get the user and collection name under nouncil?

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Outside of governance, what do you guys think about allocating capital from extensions into the council?

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Perhaps Nerman could be renamed ‘Nounman’?

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Please discuss this errbody. Does anyone have perspective on this and whether we should be supporting it? This is the Ukraine support proposal.--https://nouns.wtf/vote/42

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Please forgive the ignorant question but, in terms of processes: nouncillors vote on the above and then whichever way it goes is the way the nouncil votes on the item, correct?

Yes, in terms of processes, nouncillors vote on a proposal, and then whichever way it goes is the way the nouncil votes on the item. The Nouns are delegated to a Gnosis Safe, and 2/3 signatures are required to confirm a transaction. The intention is to move forward with what Nouncil approves in Discord votes. After the vote is complete, the Gnosis Safe will be used to vote as Nouncil specified. The Discord vote abinds.

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pretty sure us nouners don't have any admin rights / don't think i can create new roles?

Only Nounders can create new roles, but they may be able to assign partial permissions to someone else to assign roles and save them time since it has to be done manually.

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PropHouse of Representatives?

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qq: as a new nouncillor, where is the best place for me to post a short reason for my vote? it's a bit hard for me to make the meeting due to timezone

As a new nouncillor, the best place for you to post a short reason for your vote is in the prop thread here in Discord. There will be a thread underneath each vote in the channel <#947209355189702666>.

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qq: is there any appetite for Nouncil activity to show up on Agora? Could be a really good way to show a builder's voting history before they get delegated a noun, should they seek it

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Question ( <@!410593947027505162> or <@!362737590430072862> maybe?) where can you see who voted which way on chain & reasons besides the bot? I looked at prop but only see totals. Also —can we change our vote if it’s wrong? eg prop 120—looks like an error in execution.

You can see who voted which way on chain by checking this contract: https://etherscan.io/address/0x6f3E6272A167e8AcCb32072d08E0957F9c79223d. However, there is no way to reverse, change, or re-do a vote once it has been submitted.

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Question: does anyone know if there are any women Nouners? Or any other women Nouncillors? Or is it just me? Just curious

There is at least one woman Nouner, as mentioned by SerNoadz#3802, who shared the Twitter profile of https://twitter.com/beautyandpunk. However, it is not clear if there are any women Nouncillors.

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Question for <@!362737590430072862> <@!708131862731554917> and anyone who may know: if Abstain wins, do we abstain? Or does No (or yes) win because essentially the abstain doesn’t count? Have we had this happen before? That’s a lot of nouns to just not vote. (Prop 107)

If Abstain wins in the Nouncil vote, the collective Nouns will vote Abstain in the primary vote. Abstains don't have an impact on the grander vote in general, other than publicly letting everyone know that the Nouncil is not voting either way. In the main on-chain vote, abstain votes do not count towards quorum. However, dynamic quorum will change this, making it less straightforward.

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Question. How does Nouncil get a prop on chain? There is a cool little project that probably needs timely action if it's going to happen. I'm not saying we should do this one necessarily (but I do think it's cool!), but what is the process if we chose to do so? https://discourse.nouns.wtf/t/sailing-pr-campaign-korea-blockchain-week-2022-6-7-august/1494

Anyone can bring a proposal to the Nouncil, where it is usually discussed and given feedback. When the proposal is ready, it is submitted for a Nouncil vote to put on chain. If it passes, it will be submitted to Nouns DAO. The Nouncil also holds a separate vote to decide what they vote on it. They vote as a block in Nouns DAO, and in Prop House, they have experimented with breaking the votes up proportionally.

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Question, if anyone knows -- does Allocate in this context mean Give as in transfer to ownership, or just Delegate? In which case, could delegation not be a better way of going about it? Could even be a long-contract delegation from Nouns DAO (NAC) itself. Just thinking out loud.

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Quick Q&A with Blueberry. How do you feel about being voted in as a Nouncillor? Hi everyone. Thank you for accepting my application to be a Nouncillor and thank you <@708131862731554917> for inviting me to apply. I feel very honored to be a Nouncil member. I'm a bit nervous, but I hope I can contribute some good things

Blueberry feels honored to be a Nouncillor and is a bit nervous, but hopes to contribute some good things to the Nouns DAO.

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Quick Question for DAO enthusiasts! Can the nouns Treasury own IRL Assets? How would that contribute to the overall nouns treasury? How would voting rights be Administered?

The question about whether the nouns Treasury can own IRL assets and how that would contribute to the overall nouns treasury, as well as how voting rights would be administered, was partially answered by Benbodhi#1111. They mentioned that it mainly comes down to the location and restrictive laws, and that it would require making a proposal and having it voted on. However, the conversation does not provide further details on how this would contribute to the treasury or how voting rights would be administered.

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quick question when do proposal chats get created?

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Quick thought - it can feel hard to keep up with the pace of proposals and feel like I'm giving good feedback and making strong decisions.--Proposal 47 - why does this exist? If we say yes or no it doesn't do anything. There's a 0.0 ETH transfer to a Gnosis Safe which I assume is the one they just set up, and this proposal is signaling official DAO acceptance the group. But it's not explained. Not really satisfied with this one, I think they could have waited and submitted one with the mentioned event proposal and funding requirements.

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Really like the idea of being able to mint your own noun on the playground, would there need to be some kind of visual difference between a playground noun vs auction noun? like a little stamp or something..

Plan is to make all traits 5-10% lighter (or darker), that way it’s distinguished. There's also the idea of using stickers or adding a very light stroke on them, like 25% of white, to create a clear visual difference between playground nouns and auction nouns.

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Reason: Please, it's dark, I'm in a basement. All I have is this Nouns DAO VOTE button, can anybody read this?

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Regarding Prop 93, can someone point me to what this is from the first round of it? Is it an NFT with auction specific art that you receive just for submitting a valid vote?

Regarding Prop 93, it is an NFT with auction specific art that you receive just for submitting a valid vote. The v1 version of this can be found in the link posted by JoelCares#5898 in channel #984460205372891206.

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Regarding Proposal 72, is there any color on why a lot of votes are abstaining?

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Remember Nouncillors - we use Discord usernames to idenfity and tag, if you change it please leave a comment here to let errbody know!

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Remind me of Noun O’ clock time? I have a ton of Nounish glasses. Happy to help get them delivered today/tomorrow in Time Sqaure

Noun O' clock time for the event mentioned is around 5:40 PM EST today.

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Reposting as was asked on another Nouns channel --How I evaluate props…--wen there are 40-50 to rate-I only go off the proposal info… --Process is-1) skim the prop-2) re-read if passes sniff test-3) abstain if not my area-4) evaluate -5) use I.C.E to make evaluation numerical-6) iterate above -7) sense check ICE numbers -8) vote on top recommendations -9) signal to Nouncil props that were high in one of three ICE metrics… but didn’t make it (but could or should if changed)--ICE = impact, confidence of success, ease of execution.--Note: ICE is not an accurate score in isolation from one person… it works wen many votes cast from many people. --<@455456625671798796> your Y Combinator would fit well into 9)

The Nouncil votes on new members on the 1st of every month. The voting process will start soon for the upcoming month.

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role = nouncillor?

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salutations, <@693616511646171217> --There are two main issues people have brought forth regarding this proposal, perhaps you can address them.--1. We have a lot of streetwear and related recently funded - why do we want more?-2. As you noted, this is something related to being a founding partner of a business - this isn't a nouns-specific endeavor. While we did go off the rails for a few things that we recently funded, we are dialing things back to those which are more nouns-focused. How is this nouns-centric?

In response to the two main issues:--1. The reason for wanting more streetwear-related funding is due to the strong alignment of cultural values between Nouns and Dopamine. Dopamine aims to be the first community-owned streetwear brand in web3, with Nouns being their biggest inspiration. This partnership would help bolster Nouns' reputation as leaders and incubators of the next wave of creativity.--2. This proposal is Nouns-centric because the authentication and distribution model around Dopamine's non-fungible streetwear incorporates an on-chain, decentralized approach. The microchips in the clothing will be hardware wallets themselves, with signatures linking to a Nouns-specific brand registry that lives entirely on-chain. This is unlike existing models that use centralized middleware or registries. In this sense, Nouns would be helping champion truly web3 homegrown technology.

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Saw the nounciler vote has ended 😁. What’s the process from here? Shall I just jump on the Nouciler call on Thursday?

You'll get your role soon and then can join the calls 🙂-There will be an announcement I believe.

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scaling indefinitely, no.--actually couple weeks ago, in the post-nouncil hangout call i _ALREADY_ brought up what would it look like to split up 8 nouns into 4 voting blocks of 2.--as groups get bigger, it's hard to accomplish tasks or get people actually involved. we're at what, 40-ish folks? how many would you say are fairly active/invovled already, besides simply emoji voting? probably 1/3? --i dont think we're at a problem state by any means now, i personally am just a very execution-first kinda guy and so i trend towards small groups to ensure shit gets done (usually groups of 1, ie why most my projects are solo ha). --i don't love the idea of capping anything because it's enacting some rule, right? I wouldn't want someone to feel they didn't _deserve_ to be here and that us here are lucky cause we're already in. i think we just let the experiment play out for now. inactive nouncillors isn't currently a problem, we're not anywhere near not reaching quorum where inactivity will stunt us, i just think its just sad to see and a missed opportunity for said folks. i really love the nouncil and want us to be a strong example of governing as a group. i love that we aren't afraid to speak a dissenting opinion, while realizing we can like the person but disagree on prop details, i think that largely comes down to the fact that we dont own these nouns, just exercise them. so we dont care as much about social pressures (i.e. abstaining when you _want_ to vote no).--i digress, the nouncil feeling bloated for members in it is just one opinion, for a newcomer it can be incredibly exciting to join nouns day 1 and find the nouncil and immediately feel connected to 50+ people. that's a positive for sure, creating community (forgive the cheesy expression). i'll always kick us in the butt to make sure we're moving along with the things we said we'd do. sometimes that just invovles smaller pods. i reach out to nouncillors, or subgroups of nouncillors, specifically when i need something answered/done that may get lost in the general channel. --i think we do have a nouncil function and mission (voting, proposing, taking part in nouns goverenance) and we should follow-through on the couple of projects we've already started before looking to whats next/when to cap this thing. lets make sure this thing is _the thing_ we all think it is and we can deliver upon that before thinking through how to change it. --happy to discuss thursday.

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Scribe Diddly:--8. <@819316859097579530> - we shouldn't vote on our own things with nouncillor votes. <@362737590430072862> considering adding this to some sort of voting ethics document. Probably best to abstain if you have something on prop house like <@303004182129147905> did this past prop house. <@902628305151328317> (sounding like billy mays) - BIG FAN OF PROP HOUSE, HERE. I WOULD LOVE IT TO JUST BE THERE ARE 50,60,70 PEOPLE VOTING AND MAKE IT SUPER DILUTED. I WOULD HATE TO BE LEFT OUT OF OTHER PEOPLES' PROPS. -9. <@708131862731554917> - what should we do about inactive nouncillors? <@303004182129147905> - SHAME AND REMOVE THEM. And <@245856432107290624> will make a gif that captures their shame.-10. <@756585502391664822> curious if nouncil will sponsor nouns sounds.-11. <@501964507439038474> just had nounish consultants pass with small grants with <@827643770484424723> - if anyone is interested, please reach out!-12. secret word is nouncilpower--Meeting adjourned at 10:23AM CST--2/2

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SharkDAO is putting this on-chain. Nouncil likey?

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Should we be voting on Prop44?

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Should we put a vote ASAP? I can do it this time? How long we leaving the vote on for?

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should we remove Weme for list?--or at least not count in that overall 77% number?

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should we set up a lil nouns district? We can miniaturize things <:noun_face:863562478546190358>

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should we setup voting for our Prop House votes this round?

Yes, voting for Prop House votes this round will be set up. Toady_Hawk#8950 mentioned that they will have it ready today.

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Since I'm fairly new to all this, can you please point me to where this would live? Would it just be on the Nouncil site, functioning as a logo for the Nouncil, or does it also serve another purpose?

The shield/token would live as a non-transferable, NFT-like item that represents on-chain identity for contributors to the DAO without compromising their pseudonymity. It would open up many opportunities and possibilities. However, it is not clear where exactly it will be seen, as the practical application and context of the shield/image are still being discussed.

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Since nouncil put up the proposal, does it go through another round of voting to vote on it or does nouncil commit the votes?

Since nouncil put up the proposal, it goes through a separate vote as mentioned by maty#0984: Separate vote :)

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So are we supposed to vote yes ? Or it doesnt matter at all what we vote? At what stage does the veto occur

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so --- does the nouncil have a full noun delegated to it now?

Yes, currently the Nouncil has two nouns delegated to it from a user. More should be on the way shortly. You can view the delegated Nouns at https://noun.pics/nouncil.eth?includeDelegates=true.

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So I minted 3 World of Noun and somehow ended up with 2 pyramid heads and a toad with a toga. What’s going on here I need answers

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So, in terms of adding new people, I think we already gave a relatively good amount of time initially for everyone to add themselves to the document, which was created by <@!708131862731554917> — obviously the list isn’t permanent and newcomers are welcome, but maybe our next focus could be more orientated on a collective goal? We’ve had a few ideas thrown around which I like so maybe we can vote on them. Going back to the idea of not adding newcomers right now, obviously every potential newcomer is welcome to give their inputs on this channel (as far as I’m aware it’s not closed for just those with the @Nouncil role) so it’s just a case that you wouldn’t have a Discord role yet (but your input would be as valuable as one with a role). And not forgetting any new additions would have to be added manually by a Nounder.

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Some questions to consider: --1) If someone wants to join now, what should be the process. Majority vote? At any time or once per week? Once per month? --2) Are newly admitted members part of the main council, or should there be a secondary layer so that those present here remain the core? What could that look like? --3) Any ideas for Proposals for our first attempt? --<@!362737590430072862> maybe a good application for some polls if possible

1) The conversation does not provide a clear answer to the process for someone wanting to join now.--2) bepolarbare#8884 suggests creating a vote for the new members addition process, with options for frequency and status (primary council, secondary, etc). They mention that they would vote for a monthly/secondary option, but no final decision is provided in the context.--3) bepolarbare#8884 proposes an idea to piggyback on Jacob's proposal for a Noun derivative marketplace, suggesting that the group could collectively build a project for inclusion in the proposed marketplace. However, no other proposals or decisions are mentioned in the context.

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Something that's tough for me with Prop House is that I want to support my favorite Props but what if they aren't asking for enough?

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sorry been face deep in code all day. do i need to write my own accomplishments here? or is this just for nominations?

In the conversation, cdt#3727 asks if they need to write their own accomplishments or if the thread is just for nominations. JoelCares#5898 replies with just nominations.

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sorry for the basic question, I own a Noun, how do I secure voting privileges ? Thanks.....

To secure voting privileges as a Noun owner, go to the channel <#898686706667126794> and type `!join`. This will give you your Nouner role. You can vote on proposals at https://nouns.wtf/vote with the wallet containing your Noun.

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Sorry to interject, any idea about putting the vote for nouncil putting the prop up on chain?

The vote for the nouncil putting the prop up on chain will take 60 hours to complete. If it passes, it will be put on chain right after. The proposal was posted in channel #947209355189702666.

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So since I’ve abstained on-chain with 189’s vote for proposal 51, I’ve also abstained with my Nouncil vote. Is this best practice? Asking for a fren (189) 😂

Since you abstained on-chain with 189's vote for proposal 51, you also abstained with your Nouncil vote. According to JoelCares#5898, they think that's fair.

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So these Vee people are very underexposed to nouns. So I’ve been doing what I can. Btw I think we need to buy a shit ton of legos and do this at NFT conferences —this is going to be a full mural of VeeFriends....and one pair of noggles. ⌐◨-◨ also been distributing all my stickers —most of the time they’ve never seen them. It’s shocking. Lol Do I put LEGO art on my cooridinape?

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So we are having our weekly meeting soon right! Do we have some meeting agenda? I volunteer to take some notes on the call tonight. I think we need to make something along the lines of the nouners notes. Large topic in bold, and questions, ideas, points below.

Yes, there will be a weekly meeting, and it is scheduled for tomorrow at 10 AM EST. The agenda is being worked on, and you can find it here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16hiYveJmjaKEBRkhZopl1y8QFiZgEUtnTIcpVwvto2k/edit?usp=sharing

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structuring votes so that all projects receive an equal weight feels like a misstep similar to the structuring of the US senate... it seems egalitarian on the surface, but should a project with 50 mints (Montana) have a vote equal to a project with 5000 mints? (NY, TX, CA, etc)

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super interesting. Just to clarify, by member of the community we mean NFTs holders - which presuppose that the extension project has already issued NFTs-?

Yes, by member of the community, Coral Orca#4823 is referring to NFT holders, which implies that the extension project has already issued NFTs. Seneca#8660 confirms this and adds that the idea would be to include more NFT holders as they come about.

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Sure - actually do you want to try transferring nouncil now? I was playing with the Gnosis ENS app, seems pretty simple

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Thanks <@410593947027505162> --with so many Noun votes delegated now to Nouncil, might be something for those who abstained to consider. Just want to make sure everyone understands and that we're all clear on the implications. For the main on-chain vote, do abstain votes count towards quorum?

For the main on-chain vote, abstain votes do not count towards quorum.

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thanks for the feedback! It has been underway for some time. What is the best way to get in front of Nouns owners wen ready?

The best way to get in front of Nouns owners when ready is to start with channels <#943943469821476944> and <#875751366340005908>, then use Discourse for more public feedback. By that time, you should have someone willing to put it on chain for you.

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Thanks for the suggestion Woody.--Twitter spaces is the in-thing in Nouns DAO and I'm sure many people would want to hear Founder's POV on Nounish subdaos. --How effective would a sum-up of the conversation be though?--Would it triumph writing an article which is more structured as I have done for Lil nouns? Because I'm thinking a summary of twitter spaces can be done by Roko (AI), and this idea will morph into a podcast rather than a reference page.

A sum-up of the conversation could be effective, as suggested by SuperTightWoody#3744. They mentioned that the writing could be done by Roko (AI) and starting with Twitter spaces would help get the ball rolling. The idea might eventually morph into a podcast rather than a reference page.

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Thanks! Mind if I expand that to the Nounder role too?

Yes, Nounder role can also attend the Nouncil meetings, as mentioned by Toady_Hawk#8950, who said that a Nounder attended the meeting last week.

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Thanks! That’s helpful… I woukd consider changing my vote if NewShades DAO were to use nounish NFTs within it’s framework somehow…we vote for new nouncil members each month, so maybe re-apply once the nounishness aspect is more clear? Also, I represent only one opinion of many here, so let’s see how this month’s vote shakes out 🙂

The question about whether NewShades DAO would use nounish NFTs within its framework and if it would be better to re-apply once the nounishness aspect is more clear was not directly answered. However, krel#0404 mentioned that their project is inspired by nouns but not built around them, with nounish concepts being an important 10% of the whole. They also expressed interest in making NewShades DAO more nounish if they can find a good way to do so. The conversation also touched on the criteria for nouncil membership and the need for further discussions on new member criteria and growth rate.

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Thanks you for the love! Would you like to give me a Noun number between 1 and 50 to make the Noncilers a thing with? https://twitter.com/nounprofiles/status/1521206944786231298

Yez. Noun 24 ⌐|<a:blobhearts:957100739992354898>

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Thank you, Nouncil APAC call is 3️⃣ :0️⃣ 0️⃣ pm HKT today

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That idea is core to one of Joel and my concepts for a first Nouncil proposal. Maybe could he combined. How about noon est Monday?

The question was about scheduling a meeting for a Nouncil proposal discussion. The conversation settled on Tuesday at 12:30 PM EST as the agreed-upon time.

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That’s brilliant. Where’d we reserve some? Very fitting as actually looking for a TLD, notably nouns related.

Reservations for NNS names will be available very soon, within a couple of weeks. An official date will be tweeted in the next few days. There will be a grace reservation period for .eth holders to get their NNS counterpart to avoid speculation and web3 identity theft.

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Thats fair! Thoughts:--- At what point in a project is it fine to apply? Some other applications seemed to also be in idea stage(?)-- The likelyhood of us using noun NFTs (or other nounish ideas/brand/collabs) within NewShades might go up with an existing support structure of the nouncil? Idk

At what point in a project is it fine to apply?--It is fine to apply when you are either a builder working on nounish stuff inside the DAO or a leader of nounish communities (extensions). If you don't fit in yet, you will be welcomed when the time comes.

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Thats how I would picture it for now, what do you guys think? Of course as a builder this is very exciting. It would be kinda like the nouns' oscars or so. No slapping though!

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Thats my line of thinking with the proposal. What are we rewarding exactly?

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That was fun! Maybe Nouncil takes the lead on noun o clock and rotate co-hosts? And a great goat! Whatcha think <@!245856432107290624> ?

!𝚡𝚊𝚛𝚐𝚜#0333: I love this idea. I am happy to manage the rotation schedule if that would be helpful. I am working on a nounish calendar for my blog already.

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The idea is that the council is delegated a noun for voting/proposal subs is that correct?

Yes, the idea is that the council is delegated a noun for voting and proposal submissions.

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The Nouncil call is at a hard time for West Coast folks (morning, kids are crazy).--Any thoughts on perhaps us West coasters providing written feedback on the agenda when we can't attend?

Yes, providing written feedback on the agenda when you can't attend the Nouncil call is a good idea. JoelCares#5898 mentioned that written feedback on the agenda is also awesome. Additionally, Toady_Hawk#8950 mentioned that they are setting up a secondary weekly call for APAC timezones and will take comments from people prior to both meetings.

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The Nouncil POAP is so freaking good! I can't even take it, honestly I would pay ETH to get a copy, wen mint?

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The Nouncil was crucial in getting Prop 💯 off the ground and across the finish line. I hope everyone here has seen the updates and visuals in <#1022587945313636485>. I wanted to thank you again and ask for additional Nouncil guidance on an potential extension of the project: do you think Nouns would have an interest in presenting** a live musical artist** at the charity beer garden in one month's time? On Oct. 29, I expect the biggest crowds to visit the beer garden before a rivalry game...probably a primetime kick-off under the lights. With a longer day to offer expanded entertainment, we're looking at shifting from a DJ to live music in the evening. Emerging midwestern country artist Clayton Anderson has agreed to perform if we can cover some basic costs (I'd like to provide an actual stage, as well). He just released his third studio album and headlined a concert for the Indianapolis Colts' opener vs the KC Chiefs. Execution would require approx. 20 Eth and there's just enough time to manage the logistics. Do you think Nouns would like to add a Presenting Sponsorship to the list of DAO accomplishments?

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The numbers are a bit confusing, maybe just the formatting is unfamiliar to me 🤔 -But from what I can tell, estimates were made in eth but needed to be paid for in USD and now the eth is worth less in terms of USD and props need more funding?

Yes, that’s the bottom line.

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There are a lot of folks who offered advice and guidance on Prop 100. Would any be willing to give feedback on the idea of a Nouns presenting sponsorship on a live concert? -<@813421644298321961> <@603240181050638346> <@708131862731554917> <@270147458737242112> <@840080050191204352> <@362737590430072862> <@738431505927241828> <@881315476163141642> <@497119763286196225> -Who am I forgetting?

JoelCares#5898 suggested that for the DAO to pay for a Nouns presenting sponsorship on a live concert, it's important to highlight how exactly it proliferates Nouns and benefits the DAO, rather than just covering costs.

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there are 'only' 25 or so nouncilors...can we pin a list of all the handles that you can copy and paste to @ them all?

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There are three questions that need answering here:--1. Who are the members of the Nounish Council-2. How does the Nounish Council want to handle a delegated Noun vote?-3. Why does the Nounish Council exist and what do they do?--#1 and #2 are a high priority because of the opportunity offered by <@827708794841727076> and <@813421644298321961> - I think a delegated Noun vote is a generous offer and an exciting opportunity to really connect with the Nouns community. #3 is going to take a while.--I'm not a Nounish project leader. To any leaders of Nounish projects reading this - nows the time to step up and try to make this conversation happen. Who wants in? And how do you want to handle a delegated Noun vote?

1. The members of the Nounish Council include sidenoun#1868 (Sidenoun project leader), 0xFloyd#2466 and <@830450430219386902> (with <#909675367239909396>), Haps#6400, WNX#7117, Toady_Hawk#8950, Backseats#0001, bepolarbare#8884, and others who have expressed interest in being part of the council.--2. The Nounish Council has not yet decided on how to handle a delegated Noun vote. They are discussing various options, including using a Discord bot for voting and potentially creating a multisig.--3. The Nounish Council exists to bring together leaders of Nounish projects and collaborate on initiatives. They aim to move the Nouns community forward and make decisions on behalf of their respective projects.

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There has to be someone in Nouns with a connection to Notion ppl, right?

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There’s also the thoughts around balancing the permissionlessness aspects of CC0 but the need to have some guardrails when distributing funds. So I don’t think you came off harsh —there are legit concerns. Oh and are you new really?😂 I mean in nounish terms you were here before most of us! Just now you’re official!<a:noun_heart:907783392182014012>

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They’re working on a Soul Bound Government token. Can they come to the end of the Nouncil meeting or should we set a time?

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This is cool ⌐◨-◨-Feels like a small nation now.-Maybe connect with CityDAO and get a piece of Nouns land?

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*this is generally my advice for everything moving forward. coordinate amongst groups pre-proposal seems like a big positive signal

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This is great!-Clean in simple.-Maybe more explanation needed for comment…-Instead of: “Describe your Nounish activities. What are you working on? *”-It could be: “Describe your Nounish activities. What are you working on? Make sure to include any important links. *”

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This is so helpful! Great work! I thought we had 13 nouns, no?

Yes, there are currently 12 nouns delegated, not 13.

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This is something we discussed previously. It was ambiguous when we had only one abstain emoji vote. Does it means that nouncil abstain to vote in noucil because of conflict of interest or lack of time to read prop OR does it means nouncil wants to cast abstain on-chain.--Some people might not have time to read a proposal and make their decision but also don't want to miss a vote cause it affects their vote participation rate. So that they can vote ❌ meaning they are present. -Then 🇦 vote implies that nouncil should vote abstain on-chain

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This line:-> Noun grants in the future to derivative projects should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis--I guess I would like to see the Nouners come up with a criteria for giving out Nouns to communities/extensions. Should Nouns give SharkDAO a noun? They've done a lot of Nounish things and have even purchased a few Nouns.

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This looks good <@!708131862731554917> .-How many new members should be added each month? To what extent should we dilute the nouncil… more voices is better, I think, but I imagine at some point there are diminishing returns as the group scales… might be interesting to start thinking about what spinoff nouncils might look like… for example, can the nouncil delegate a delegated noun to a new nouncil?-ya know… a dream inside a dream lol

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This looks pretty damn nounish-- would you like to reapply to Nouncil this period with this project?

Yes, krel#0404 expressed interest in reapplying to Nouncil with their project once they have the founding members in place.

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> This might be one of these votes where we must clarify that:-> -> A is abstain vote and-> X is abstain in nouncil-vote--what is the reason to have the option to super-abstain in the nouncil vote?

The reason to have the option to super-abstain in the nouncil vote is to differentiate between two types of abstentions. As explained by fiveoceans_dev#5450, when there was only one abstain emoji vote, it was ambiguous whether the nouncil abstained due to a conflict of interest, lack of time to read the proposal, or if they wanted to cast an abstain vote on-chain. The ❌ vote means that the nouncil member is present but doesn't have time to read the proposal or make a decision, while the 🇦 vote implies that the nouncil should vote abstain on-chain.

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This sounds cool!-I'm sure you'll be able to link up with manufacturers like <@813140072609218573> to add more items.-I don't see an ask in this though? How much would phase 1 cost?

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This will sound a bit self-serving, but that’s not the intention. Hear me out. I think that the combinator had a large positive effect in bringing many people to apply for grants that possibly would not have done so. When you put a deadline on something, it forces action. That is great. I think it’s also had a negative consequence of cannibalizing the activity of on-chain voting for smaller props. --I think it would be cool for Nouncil to set up a committee that would do their best to track down the prop submissions that garnered any votes in the combinator and work with the creators to hone the props further in order to prepare them for an on-chain vote. There are probably 5-10 really strong submissions that could get funded if they ended up on chain and I personally would love to see that happen. --Full disclosure, I submitted Nouns University, which I obviously think would be cool to see come to life, but others like Lil Nouns Pet (my kids would adore) and Nounable (Probably the coolest prop in the bunch) are really strong ideas that have game changing potential for the meme. Would we be interested in doing that as Nouncillors and if not, is anyone interested in pursuing that with me?

There is currently no specific committee set up to track down prop submissions that garnered votes in the combinator and work with the creators to hone the props further for an on-chain vote. However, the idea of creating such a committee has been discussed and received positive feedback from some Nouncillors. This committee could potentially help improve proposals and increase their chances of getting funded.

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This would be my list of Not Yet votes so far--1) Record label (no nounish angle that I can see yet)-2) Criminals (not nounish, although cc0)-3) Jfirer (he's great, is actually from my community, but his current project isn't nounish and he is working on a more nounish one but unreleased so not sure -- maybe I can ask him for more info about what he's working on)--Another project is not launched yet, NounCreepz, but they have a fully developed site (fork of Nouns.wtf looks like) and a bunch of art done so that shows commitment to me. Same with Dot Nouns and Leo Clarke, both had a pretty fleshed out proposal and have won Prop House. --The rest of the applicants (so 14 I guess) all seem great candidates if the criteria is Actively working on a Nounish project---What do you guys think?

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Took me 10 minutes to scroll all the way to here.... Is this a nouncil foundation day?

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true/ not sure everyone needs to allocate to everyone though. the dao is one big circle anyway so if pods just vote for each other (inside the big/general round) not sure whether shakes out any different vs having several separate smaller pods /rounds. this way at least allows for some cross-pollenation ?

The conversation discusses the challenges and considerations of using Coordinape for distributing rewards within the DAO and the potential issues with cross-pollination. However, it does not provide a direct answer to the question about whether everyone needs to allocate to everyone or if having several separate smaller pods/rounds would be better.

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Unless those who delegated to us want to vote for their Nouns on this one?

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Vibe check on posting threads in votes-chat for discourse props that did not go on-chain yet?

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Voted. Note that I only voted NO on one application where it was not clear what the applicant had built that was particularly nounish? @krel.eth#0404 can you make a case for a nounish project or community you’ve built? Your project look very cool, but not particularly nounish… but perhaps I’m missing information.

The question was whether krel.eth#0404 could make a case for a nounish project or community they've built. Krel.eth#0404 responded that their project is not as nounish as others and that they didn't understand the application was so tightly bound to a specific project. They mentioned that their project, NewShades DAO, is adopting the nounish auction model and would like to issue a PFP for all new members, which could be nounish. They also mentioned the potential to make NewShades DAO the first saas/dao tool with connections to the Nouns and replace Discord with a nounish, web3-native alternative. However, krel.eth#0404 eventually decided to withdraw their application for the time being.

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**Wag: Retroactive Fund Proposal Discussion (WAGmi FUNd)**-- https://hackmd.io/9Tc09SqDSQW4lJmgMH9JBA-- an experiment about funds allocation (giving people a voice in these discussions) and nouncils abilities to run projects like this-- noone is against running this as nouncil, nouncil will have the custody of the funds-- will be looking for people to help administrating (Joel and Toady already agreed, more people are welcome)-- the project should start as soon as possible--**Proposal 61: CDT Residency Discussion**-- yea he's alright - Toady--**Proposal 62: Prop House Continuation Discussion**-- positive feedback from nouncilors-- interesting dynamic (variable funding, number of winners, number of submitted proposals,..),--**Marketing Pod Discourse Discussion (Noun 142) **-- marketing successful nounish projects-- creating an open-source library--**Discourse: Retro Gaming Proposal (Cyber49)**-- developing a compression technology and creating an arcade that incorporates this-- big ask, but cool tech, -- how does it proliferate nouns? what is the benefit of the game being on-chain ?--**Follow up: Admin Help requested (Joel) Note taking for meetings, data entry for votes.**

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wait, so are we going to burn inactive nouncillors or what

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Wait what is toga time - agora? And I assume the last bullet is about the upgrade to nouns lol

TogaTime is a generator that allows you to add the toga accessory to Nouns. It can be found on the Nouncil website: https://nouncil.vercel.app.

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want to clarify the idea:-I think that ideally every day a different nouns-realted entity should host noun o'clock. this way we get more diverse exposure to the project, and more variety. -So something like, by way of example:-Mondays - @nounish -Tuesdays - @nouncil -Wednesdays - @sharkdao-Thursdays - @gnars-Fridays - ??-...

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Was 253 ear marked for Salvino?

Yes, Noun 253 was earmarked for Salvino.

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We could do something like Each nouncilor has 3 votes to cast (emoji react) and then we would vote for the top reacted proposals ? We can also give more weight to them (3 votes, 2, 1, 1 if we picked 4 props, ...).

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we got an update on nouncillor voting percentage?

74% as a rough first calculation, although this doc will begin to get a lil unweildy.

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We have a fire Elmo gif with nouns?

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We have a small team preparing to submit a prop for the combinator grant. Would anyone here be willing to look it over and provide feedback?

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Wen Lost Nouns Prop House V2?

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Wen two props go on chain?

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wen weekly proposal discussion townhall co-led by shark/nouncil?

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We would just love to be involved, and maybe if you did want to give back it could go to sponsor a prop on NounPunks.Prop.house?

Yes, it seems that Toady_Hawk's suggestion of sponsoring a prop on NounPunks.Prop.house was positively received by sidenoun#1868, who agreed and mentioned they would just need an address to send it to.

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What about lost nouns?

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What about some sort of giveaway on the noun o'clock Twitter every Sunday where you get an entry for each POAP you collected through the week.

There has been discussion about a giveaway on the noun o'clock Twitter every Sunday, and it's not as complex tech-wise. POAP has a raffle feature already which will be really easy to use.

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what allows for this, and was it an extensive modification of the og nouns contract?

cdt#3727: <@878517610025742336> worked on contracts and can better answer--No answer located.

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what are the tax implications of these rewards?

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What does it mean to be Nounish?--⌐◨-◨ Nounish is to be free, to carve your own path, make your own rules.-⌐◨-◨ Nounish is to have fun, to be colourful, different, and disruptive.-⌐◨-◨ Nounish is to be quirky and trendy at the same time.-⌐◨-◨ Nounish is all inclusive.

To be Nounish means:-1. To be free, to carve your own path, and make your own rules.-2. To have fun, be colorful, different, and disruptive.-3. To be quirky and trendy at the same time.-4. To be all-inclusive.

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What does the Nouncil think about this?

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What do y'all think of this Nouncil Membership Application form? Built with <@804065259383685161>'s addressform.io tool-https://www.addressform.io/form/25e8e038-3208-4c65-b200-7dea6a550d9a

The question was about the Nouncil Membership Application form. The direct replies suggest that the form is generally well-received, with some suggestions for improvement such as adding more explanation for the comment section and providing guidance on the length of responses.

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What do you all think about just posting Nouns DAO discussions in <#855538581434007635> rather than here? maty just posted his there and I think its going to spark good conversation

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What do you hope to achieve from being a Nouncillor? I hope to learn more about art, NFTs and make new friends--What do you like about Nounish art? I like pixel art. I like to remix people's NFTs and I can do that with CC0 art. I like to see how creative other people can get--Anything else you want to say? Nah not really. I'm tired --LOL it was a long school day for Blueberry. Fire any questions you have for her and I'll see if she's in the mood to respond tomorrow 😂

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what do you mean by “repo”?--we couldn’t get Protonoun into the Lost Nouns playground because of the custom background etc. threw everything off.--but it’ll be in the 404 auctions, yea. it’s one of the two special 1/1s we have. --auctions #62 & #88 <a:puprave:679211566381400075> <a:rainbones:679228618123116584>

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What do you think Can We make this prop for 2 inflatables ? One for the Vision van team and maybe one for the OTG projection team? <@497119763286196225>

Based on the conversation, it seems that Bigshot Klim#1853 is open to the idea of creating two inflatables for the Vision van team and the OTG projection team. They mention that they can assist with the design and work with a fabricator to deliver a high-quality product, but logistics, storage, insurance, etc., would need to be handled by a responsible individual or group.

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What happened w/prop 93? The POAP v2?

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what if smaller projects receive delegate votes within larger projects?

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What is max ask in small grants?

The max ask in small grants is 10 ETH.

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what is nouncil procedure for proposing to nounciL?

To propose something to the nouncil, you can post in the nouncil chat with a link to your Discourse post. The proposal will then be discussed at least once on the weekly call and put up for a vote.

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**What is Nounish?**--Nounishness is very difficult to define. I did a word study on ‘beauty’ a while ago, which is also quite difficult to define. In my searching, I found this definition by Jonathan King which I thought hit the nail on the head.--> *Beauty is an intrinsic quality of things which, when it’s perceived, pleases the mind by a certain kind of fittingness.*--I thought that was a good place to start for describing what Nounish means, which I think is just a certain beauty that is exclusive to Nouns. --Nounish is an intrinsic quality of things which, when it’s perceived, pleases the mind by a certain kind of fittingness to the Nouns community. It can be used to describe physical or digital objects and general values. -*1. In regards to art: “That new derivative project looks very Nounish.”-2. In regards to physical goods: “Even though it doesn’t include noggles, this still feels very Nounish to me”-3. In regards to values: “Kindness and inclusiveness are absolutely Nounish.”*

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What is the plan for voting on Nouns Client Prop House with the Nouncil Nouns?

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What is the purpose of being on the nouncil?

The purpose of being on the nouncil is to vote on proposals, as mentioned by cdt#3727.

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what is the size of the treasury Noun Punks (assuming that info is public)

The size of the treasury for Noun Punks, not counting NFTs, is about 25 Eth. However, this number includes working capital and may be in flux due to the launch of a second collection.

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What is the yellow/orange highlight in the Nouncil membership spreadsheet?

The yellow/orange highlight in the Nouncil membership spreadsheet was used by Toady_Hawk#8950 to track who they couldn't DM for the prop house vote. It is not an indication of being on a naughty list or anything important.

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What kind of vote?

The question was: What kind of vote?--No answer located.

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what platforms do you usually check when evaluating a proposal? do you find that most pieces of info/discussion you went through were necessary to read after the fact?

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What prop 188?

Prop 188 was not mentioned in the provided conversation. However, there was a discussion about Prop 118, which the Nouncil voted yes on.

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what’s going onw nouncil votes in prop house?

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What should be our first taste to tackle as a council? --Should we make a simple website with all the members and projects? To me that seems the best first task. --Weme’s idea could also be fleshed out and put to a vote. As an alternative, perhaps we could do this extension to support a charity instead? Just ideas.

The question about the first task for the council was answered in the conversation. The majority of the participants agreed that creating a website should be the first step. This website would include information about the members, projects, and help present the council to the Nouns community and the general public.

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What specific permissions do this?

To disable everyone from reacting in a specific channel and allow only the nouncilor role to react, go to the channel settings of the mentioned channel, click on 'roles' on the left sidebar. Select everyone and disable the 'react with emojis' permission. Then add the nouncilor role and enable the 'react with emojis' permission. However, it seems that there isn't a 'react with emojis' permission, so you might have to make the channel private to achieve the desired effect.

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What’s stopping all the other sites from using these. We should be getting ⌐◨-◨ on as many sites as possible. Imagine credit reads “artist name ⌐◨-◨” on sites everywhere!

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What's the consensus on Prop 76 -- allocating Noun to Lil Nouns?

There is no consensus on Prop 76 yet. The community plans to discuss it further during their weekly call on Thursday before the vote is due.

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whats the current way of applying to be on the nouncil? would like to try another application 🙂

The current way of applying to be on the nouncil is to DM Toady_Hawk#8950 with your information and project details. They will be happy to put your application in the next round with your new project added.

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whats the nouncil delegation address again?

The nouncil delegation address is nouncil.eth.

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Whats up nouncil! Happy to talk about the John Hamon prop tomorrow if you guys want to add it to the agenda https://discourse.nouns.wtf/t/john-hamon-x-nouns/1731

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What time do we have to get our ranked votes in?

You should get your ranked votes in as soon as possible because there's less than a day left, even though it still displays as a day.

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What was the consensus on the Nouns vs Monsters game?-Arash is very eager to get it on chain with nouncil support.-Should we put it to vote to see if nouncil will put it on chain and vote yes?

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What will the NOUN collection look like? So far the visuals and the digital assets on the site don’t really carry the Nounish vibe. What are some of the physical. Sample@collections that you guys have released and what was the success rate there? Would love to see what dopamine x nouns collection would look like how will it proliferate the messaging and brand?

The NOUN collection will be completely Nouns-branded, and the team will work closely with Oni to ensure it aligns with the Nounish branding, culture, and design philosophy. Dopamine's in-house designer has experience creating merch for artists like Billie Eilish, Young Thug, Lil Baby, and Lil Uzi. The merch will feature Noggles/Nouns art and the slogan ONE NOUN, EVERY DAY, FOREVER as a focal point in the branding.

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When does the new nouncillors vote close?

The new nouncillors vote closes in a jiffy.

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when do we need to close nouncil voting on prop 44 in order to give the multi-sig owners time to vote on-chain?

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when do we vote?

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When is the weekly nouncil call? should I add it to the nouns calendar?

The weekly nouncil call is on Thursdays at 10am EST. You can add it to the Nouns calendar using this link: https://calendar.google.com/calendar?cid=Y18ydDNtNXJ0MDA3c29ydmljaGoxOTg1cHJmY0Bncm91cC5jYWxlbmRhci5nb29nbGUuY29t

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When nouncillor role grouping in right sidebar?

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when was the nouncil first setup?

The Nouncil was first set up on 2/22/22, when people were called to officially say I'm In and commit to a Nouncilish future.

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Where do fractional noun owners fit in all of this? (Noun 11, Noun 143). If the goal of the nounish council is to make governance accessible to the extended nounish community, it feels like an opportunity to finally include fractional owners IMO

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Where is the easiest place to know all the ongoing Nounish projects?

The easiest place to know all the ongoing Nounish projects is at https://nouns.center/projects.

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Where is the template? I need my toga.

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Where is voice-nouncil?

The voice-nouncil channel is accessible only to current nouncillors.

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Which nouncillor proposed something?

Toady_Hawk#8950 proposed something in the conversation.

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Which Nouncil members will be at NFT NYC next week? Would love to grab drinks if people will be around!

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Which one? The current NounsDAO proposal?

The current NounsDAO proposal is not explicitly mentioned in the conversation context. However, there is a mention of Prop 41 by 1n#6541, which might be related to the question. No answer located for the specific question about the current NounsDAO proposal.

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which vote?

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While we have you are you able to tell us more about how you are, or are planning to integrate Nouns into your record label idea? It wasn’t super clear from your email

The integration of Nouns into the record label idea involves enabling artists and musicians to create a sound library (cc0) for all future Noun projects. The concept is similar to what sound.xyz is doing, but it would be for nounsounds.xyz. The idea is still in the early stages and will be moved to the Prop House for research and development.

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who approves extension rounds? prop team?

At the moment, the prop team approves extension rounds. Eventually, it will be the responsibility of nouners.

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WHOA WHOA WHOA, cowboyz and cowgirlz, wasn't someone else talking about an accelerator on a nouncil call?

Yes, someone else was talking about an accelerator on a nouncil call. Profwerder#8300 mentioned launching a project with another user, which would be an online nounish accelerator providing coaching, expert advice, workshops, and support for builders. They shared more information on Discourse and invited interested parties to DM them.

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Who is a member of the Nounish Council?-// NOUN BUILDERS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS/REPS - COLLECTIVELY KNOWN AS nouncillors

A member of the Nounish Council is someone who is a Noun builder and/or a community leader/representative, collectively known as nouncillors.

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Who made the prop house logo?

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Who put the prop up?

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Who remembers when Nerman used to countdown to Noun'o'clock

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Who runs the Nouncil twitter account?

Toady_Hawk#8950 runs the Nouncil Twitter account.

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who would represent Nouns at the booth?

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Why don’t we include all the proposal that currently have votes?

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why only 3 signatures?

The question about why there are only 3 signatures was answered by sidenoun#1868 and Toady_Hawk#8950. They explained that it's not permanent and was done to get things rolling. The Nouncil can vote to add or remove anyone from the Multisig. It was also made as time and gas efficient as possible, with the binding vote coming from Discord.

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Why there is no new on-chain proposals? Is everyone busy with NFTNYC?

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Wiggins are you interested in joining Nouncil?

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willprice or beautiful nouns?

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Woah… just chanced upon this, thanks for the work. --Just wondering why you’d give Nouns Blog a “1” for success? Would love to get your opinion so we can work on improving it.

Blowned.eth asked why Nouns Blog was given a 1 for success. Mintface.eth explained that they gave it a 1/10 because the funding requested wouldn't have lasted long enough for the blog to reach a critical mass of readership or Google organic search traffic. They suggested that it needed 10x more ETH requested. Blowned.eth then mentioned that they're planning for more funding in the future, and not all of it will come from Nouns DAO.

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Wondering, do we have a notion link to edit the nouncil call agenda?

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would it make sense to have a noun delegated to a multisig representing this council?

Yes, it would make sense to have a noun delegated to a multisig representing the council. This idea was considered interesting by user 4156#9052, who suggested putting all the nounish state leaders on a multisig and allowing nouners to delegate to the multisig as they see fit. This would be beneficial for all derivatives and put existing derivatives in charge of admitting new ones, with oversight from nouners who can delegate elsewhere if needed.

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Would Nouncilors take a 2-3 minutes to help?

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Wouldn’t be able to answer that, but maybe as representatives? I know NounPunks have Shosha Green, Sidenoun has a female mod, I think <@!501964507439038474> is starting her own collection too so maybe she’ll soon join the Nouncil

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Would that be enough to buy a Noun?

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Would the nouns be interested in going cross chain with solana monke business?

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Would this include fractional nouns (i.e noun11, Nouns.Party)?

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Would we need a vote to move <@708131862731554917>'s Nouncil membership to the Nouns Square? If we can informally do it, I think we should just update the membership roles accordingly. If we need a vote, I'd be happy to be the first 'Yes'.

No vote is necessary to move Toady_Hawk's Nouncil membership to the Nouns Square. The general consensus among the Nouncil members is that Toady_Hawk should remain a part of Nouncil due to their contributions as a Nounish builder.

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Would you not participate if there was a big call for designers to design a given asset and release it under cc0?

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Ya group calls tend to go this way, focused discussion is best for productivity but needs some one to moderate an agenda--Sorry I’ve missed some of the early action here, keeping up to speed on things w the recording so thanks for that--Could be nice to do a recurring casual call as well, nouncil after hours?🍹

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yeah Protonoun! the protypical lost noun, no?

Protonoun is the first noun character that had the production version of the glasses on them, and proto means first. Protonoun is one of the two special 1/1s that will be in the 404 auctions, specifically auctions #62 and #88.

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Yes, i put up on discourse and DM anyone from small grants team just to let them know. -As for me i DMed Noun22. I guess noun12 and skilift are one of them too? ( sorry if i am wrong about this <:cryIgnore:674877271861100545> 🙏 )-And wait for them for approval. If after few days you still havent got any replies from em, just follow up thru. Wish you guys the best! <a:noun_heart:907783392182014012>

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Yes looks like they are very busy currently. However, this could make more sense at this point. Would we outline the request on Discourse first to begin the process?

Yes, to begin the process, you should outline the request on Discourse first. After that, you can DM someone from the small grants team to let them know about your request and wait for their approval. If you don't receive a reply after a few days, you can follow up with them.

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Yes the risk is almost always on the proposer, hence the Q by <@410593947027505162>. A lot of builders did not convert money from the DAO to USD, what would this proposal mean for the others ?

The question about what the proposal would mean for other builders who did not convert money from the DAO to USD was not directly answered in the conversation. However, JoshuaFisher#0001 mentioned that the precedent was set with Prop 73, stating that if builders require USD, they need to request USD or convert upon receipt, and if they don't convert, the risk is on the proposer. Additionally, JoshuaFisher#0001 mentioned that Prop 70 and 56 FUN Frames both suffer from this oversight and need additional funds to be completed.

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Yes we:---Vote on all Nouns DAO proposals in <#947209355189702666>--Discuss and give feedback to folks who ask before putting their ideas on chain --We can (but have not yet) sponsored someone else’s proposal to go on chain. --We can and have made our own Proposal to the DAO, which recently passed. This will involve disbursement of some funding for administrative tasks and costs, as well as a new grant program that offers 1 ETH to each Nouncil member in good standing to spearhead a nounish initiative in your own community. Both of the above initiatives will require administrative help, so you can ask me, <@362737590430072862>, <@357667384342872074> or <@410593947027505162> about that --We have been asked by <@827708794841727076> to help administer a Program he has spearheaded designed to retroactively fund those who have contributed to the DAO or to nounish culture outside the DAO. We are in need of Nouncillors to help with this initiative as well, you can pop over to <#970759473624940564> to intro yourself if you’re interested. --We have a weekly call on Thursdays at 10am est and we often need a note taker (though <@357667384342872074> has been doing it), someone to share the agenda on screen, and people to host the meeting from time to time. Just volunteer if any of this interests you. --Also you can check out https://Nouncil.wtf/gov to see some of our governance documents etc. --<@362737590430072862> <@827708794841727076> <@357667384342872074> <@410593947027505162> Did I miss anything?

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yo Nouncil, what's the best way to get feedback on a proposal?

The best way to get feedback on a proposal is to discuss it in the votes chat. In this case, the proposal in question was posted in proposal-ideas, and andrewladdusaw#8362 suggested discussing it in votes chat, providing a link to the conversation: https://discord.com/channels/849745721544146955/980821495704064031/1017212111509794886

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yoo Toady, is this for just nouns-styled projects? Would love to see about getting the NFTX or FloorDAO team up on stage one of these days

Yes, the conversation suggests that the events are focused on leaders and founders of nounish projects for now.

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Yo Poap just bought like 4 Nouns???

Poap bought 17 Nouns.

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You all bring up some valid points.--Why should people come here ?-What will draw peoples attention ?-Should I just focus on the benches ?--First, I'd like to address that none of the revnues flow into my personal pocket. My management company will take a management fee but that is all. 100% of profits will be flowing back to the DAO in some way shape or form.--It's best to think of this Nounsbnb as a pilot program, As stated in the proposal. With Nounsbnb we can create immersive experiences on the small scale level which will eventually transfer over to more larger events .. like the doodles activation currently going on at SXSW. --But to be honest there's something I've purposely left out of the proposal which is the details of how I will be making the connection between the metaverse & IRL in Nounsbnb. I did this for 2 reasons.--1. Build anticipation-2. Keep someone from stealing my ideas before me.--But to give some teasers... I will be working with some web3 native companies to keep the nouns brand imprinted in guest minds. I would like to collaborate with nouns shop to create welcome packages filled with Nouns gear. I'd like to collaborate with artist in the nounspere to potentially have their art ( canvas, sculptures, digital art) up for sale in the unit. I'd like to collaborate with [redacted] to offer experiences at sports events, musicals, dinners, movies, plays & give discounts on certain stores IRL & online. The kicker is ... this will all be gamified in a way to promote adoption of web3 tech ,NFTs, but most importantly Nouns brand. -(feel like I've said too much already but there is much more)--Now, I like the point about the exterior. The unit just so happens to be hovering the only freeway/highway/bridge leading out of town... I can come up with something to potentially hang from the balcony .. or maybe I can get custom curtain and put a QR code on it ... because the windows facing the free way are true floor to ceiling. so people will definitely be able to see... and maybe I can get some customized lights to make sure its visible when its dark. People riding by can potentially scan the code and be directed to something nouns related (just thinking out loud this is not final)

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you also want a way to contact a lot of Noun owners for quotes right?

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You are not sleeping? Do you experience nounish jet lag? Haha-Sweet dreams brother! you did a lot of work today!

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you gonna audit the proposals that got approved?

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You’re absolutely right, <@362737590430072862> . “Covering costs” is just the easy way to say it wouldn’t be an expensive venture. Nouns would see upside as live music is performed under a Nouns banner/on the largest noggles anywhere; through media coverage of the rapidly growing community event and the artist’s social media. I’ll invite the broadcast team covering the game (probably ABC) to send a camera to the event…with a long day before a night kickoff, it’ll be easier to attract media attention. I’d love to talk to <@813140072609218573> about lo-fi noggles to hand out to the crowd but I’m not sure if there’s time to manufacture and deliver for a 10/29 event. Maybe I can get the artist to wear nouns fashion (think t-shirt and jeans) during the performance. What else would be attractive to the DAO?

It seems that the question about what else would be attractive to the DAO was answered with various suggestions and ideas. Some of these include coordinating with Stoopid Buddy for walk-around Nouns and documentary footage, creating inflatables and sculptures for fan selfies, using projection mapping on the inflatables, and incorporating augmented reality Nouns scenes and POAP dispensers.

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Yup! Obviously some countries have different legislations, but in the UK that’s the take. You’ve then got to hit another tax point (withdrawing the ETH) to see how much tax you gotta pay… then buy ETH to buy the Noun, if that makes sense?